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Is CFB the only major NCAA sport trying to alienate fans?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:18 pm
Sports evolve and change all the time. College baseball grew slowly, then we had the bat and ball changes that finally seemed to have leveled out a bit. The CWS/Tourney format has changed, but by and large you are watching the same game. Aside from building a new park in Omaha, traditions seem well intact.
Basketball has also had Tourney expansions. The conference shifts have seemed to hurt hoops a bit, but the Catholic schools sticking together kept some great rivalries together. The one and done rule sucks, but that’s because of the NBA.
Then there’s football. The differences between CFB and the NFL used to be numerous, and it’s why many fans were partial to one or the other. Conference realignment has gotten out of control. Nothing makes sense geographically. The overall product is watered down. Opt-outs are the new norm in bowls, and will continue to be despite the NIL. How many fans want to pay big bucks to see a kid making 6 figures shortly out of HS? This sport’s success and fandom is largely driven by traditions, and those are being wiped away for the almighty dollar. That dollar is more important than ever as millions are spent on chef prepared meals for your backup lineman and sleeping pods for everyone including a walk-on kicker.
Similar benefits trickle down to other sports, but football drives everything, and it’s the only sport scene that is damn near unrecognizable from where it was in our earlier ages.
Basketball has also had Tourney expansions. The conference shifts have seemed to hurt hoops a bit, but the Catholic schools sticking together kept some great rivalries together. The one and done rule sucks, but that’s because of the NBA.
Then there’s football. The differences between CFB and the NFL used to be numerous, and it’s why many fans were partial to one or the other. Conference realignment has gotten out of control. Nothing makes sense geographically. The overall product is watered down. Opt-outs are the new norm in bowls, and will continue to be despite the NIL. How many fans want to pay big bucks to see a kid making 6 figures shortly out of HS? This sport’s success and fandom is largely driven by traditions, and those are being wiped away for the almighty dollar. That dollar is more important than ever as millions are spent on chef prepared meals for your backup lineman and sleeping pods for everyone including a walk-on kicker.
Similar benefits trickle down to other sports, but football drives everything, and it’s the only sport scene that is damn near unrecognizable from where it was in our earlier ages.
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:31 pm to TexasTiger08
I like capitalism except when it negatively effects me personally >:(
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:34 pm to TexasTiger08
This is a regular thing. Something starts out organic and genuine and then suits try and bottle it and regularize it and inevitably they frick it up
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:36 pm to wildtigercat93
Y’all two queens were the first two respond. I’m surprised.
I don’t care about how much money they make if the sport and entertainment value were the same. Hell, I wish Fox was able to come up with bundles of cash to keep the Big 12 intact.
I don’t care about how much money they make if the sport and entertainment value were the same. Hell, I wish Fox was able to come up with bundles of cash to keep the Big 12 intact.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:36 pm to wildtigercat93
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I like capitalism except when it negatively effects me personally
I don't think a bunch of government-backed institutions fielding athletics teams has ever been capitalism.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:37 pm to TexasTiger08
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Then there’s football. The differences between CFB and the NFL used to be numerous, and it’s why many fans were partial to one or the other. Conference realignment has gotten out of control. Nothing makes sense geographically. The overall product is watered down. Opt-outs are the new norm in bowls, and will continue to be despite the NIL. How many fans want to pay big bucks to see a kid making 6 figures shortly out of HS? This sport’s success and fandom is largely driven by traditions, and those are being wiped away for the almighty dollar. That dollar is more important than ever as millions are spent on chef prepared meals for your backup lineman and sleeping pods for everyone including a walk-on kicker.
There’s a lot to unpack here
The main one is that you leave out coaches making 10+ million a year, but have a problem with players making money
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:38 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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don't think a bunch of government-backed institutions fielding athletics teams has ever been capitalism.
Certainly not. Which means deregulating it is a good thing, no?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:42 pm to VermilionTiger
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The main one is that you leave out coaches making 10+ million a year, but have a problem with players making money
No, my issue is that the higher ups have lost complete control. In my rant, I failed to clarify that this is a snowball effect IMO. Kids want to make money? They deserve to be paid for the use of their image and likeness. But the intent of the rule is already wasted.
You want there to be consistency in capitalist feelings? Fine. Pay all these kids thousands for appearing in a Chevy commercial. Continue to pump up salaries and merge conferences. Fans hate rivalry week apparently. The bubble will burst if this continues.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:47 pm to TexasTiger08
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You want there to be consistency in capitalist feelings? Fine. Pay all these kids thousands for appearing in a Chevy commercial. Continue to pump up salaries and merge conferences.
So you want to cap how much these athletes can make? Who decides this cap and what is it based on?
You keep saying you “don’t care” about them making money and then immediately contradict that in the next sentence by complaining about how much they are making
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:48 pm to TexasTiger08
The NCAA has alienated fans, athletes, coaches, and administrators.
CFB is trying to kill off the NCAA.
CFB is trying to kill off the NCAA.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:49 pm to TexasTiger08
No one hates change and is as soft as the white, conservative male
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:49 pm to Ghost of Colby
But, the admins responsible for all this realignment also run or at least buy in to the NCAA. Who is going to run the billion dollar basketball operation that funds every other sport besides football?
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:52 pm to VermilionTiger
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The main one is that you leave out coaches making 10+ million a year, but have a problem with players making money
except that most of the money coaches make are paid for by boosters. There is no University in America Paying a coach 8mil, let alone 10mil.
Majority have 1 1/2mil to 2mil salaries with University and rest paid for by Boosters.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:54 pm to stlslick
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except that most of the money coaches make are paid for by boosters. There is no University in America Paying a coach 8mil, let alone 10mil.
What exactly is the difference between this and between the NIL? Either businesses or boosters are the ones footing this bill so they aren’t getting salaries or payment by the university either
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:54 pm to Lester Earl
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No one hates change and is as soft as the white, conservative male
Holy frick, you are a shitty poster.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:55 pm to TexasTiger08
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Y’all two queens were the first two respond. I’m surprised
Texas Tiger,
At least racists are clever enough to come up with code words like “Monday’s”
If you’re going to be homophobic try something more original than “queens” or just go with the tried and true Faget.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:57 pm to stlslick
Hi, softy.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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You keep saying you “don’t care” about them making money and then immediately contradict that in the next sentence by complaining about how much they are making
You can’t put two and two together. Let’s try again. The health of the sport is in danger. NIL, the portal, and conference realignment probably won’t have a major impact on hoops or baseball. That’s because players can get to the professional level faster. I wish the one and done was gone. Go straight to the pros if you want.
The NCAA hasn’t fricked over the postseason yet. You’ll still see your 15-2 upsets and your 3 seed winning a regional and going to Omaha. When you have pitcher v batter and 5 players on the floor, the gaps between the haves and have nots can still be close.
CFB hasn’t maintained the excitement. We have blowouts in semifinals. The NIL will make players want to go to the powerhouses even moreso, which further tips the imbalance in the game. A superconference of 16 teams where 7 schools can consistently vie for being top 10 in the country is not healthy. What recent changes has CFB undergone that have made the sport a superior product?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:02 pm to Lester Earl
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No one hates change and is as soft as the white, conservative male
Leave it to the guy who steps upon the shoulders of minorities to shout his own opinions to blast a conservative, white male.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:04 pm to Lester Earl
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No one hates change and is as soft as the white, conservative male
Because the change we’ve seen in this country driven by the pretentious white liberal has been so positive, right?
God I wish they’d ban your stupid arse.
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