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re: Incognito and Martin: An Insider’s Story
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:42 am to St Augustine
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:42 am to St Augustine
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I can't see him getting a prolonged suspension for anything other than using n***a. But then are you going to suspend a significant amount of black players as well?
Riley Cooper 2.0
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:42 am to A2
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What are the benefits?
In certain industries, you need a tough skin to survive.
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If you can't take this, how can you take the abuse on a sit? You want to work here... CLOSE!
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:43 am to A2
I think overcoming a bully is huge for character development and self confidence. It teaches conflict resolution, and basically how to deal with shitty people. Bullying has been around since the dawn of man. It's not some new fad just because Ellen Degeneres wants to hold your hand about it.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:43 am to 632627
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would you like to explain to us the benefits of rape as well?
Well that escalated quickly
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:44 am to 632627
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would you like to explain to us the benefits of rape as well?
for the rapee or the raper?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:45 am to wildtigercat93
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Riley Cooper 2.0
not even.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This right here is an example of us throwing the term around way too lightly. A lot of "bullying" isn't bullying.
but there are benefits to bullying
I'd say, though, that the one benefit I got from being bullied was knowing that there are bullies in the world, and I've got to figure out some way to deal with it on my own at some point because moms, dads, and teachers aren't always around. It was a simple thing for me, but I understand it isn't so simple for a lot of people.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:45 am to Chad504boy
I just said that because that was the main argument of the pro-cooper crowd
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:46 am to St Augustine
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I can't see him getting a prolonged suspension for anything other than using n***a. But then are you going to suspend a significant amount of black players as well?
This is a League cultural issue-- not race, but conduct-- with things going on outside of just player interaction (and the more thuggish mentality being shown by bigger POS than Incognito). This is the perfect opportunity for the League to take a stand, and also deflect blame.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:47 am to Jcorye1
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What are the benefits?
In certain industries, you need a tough skin to survive.
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If you can't take this, how can you take the abuse on a sit? You want to work here... CLOSE!
What industries is bullying beneficial in?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:48 am to wildtigercat93
Regardless of what happens in this story im so sick and tired of these guys saying this is a "man's" sport. We are all grown arse men etc etc.
You get paid, ridiculously well to play a GAME. Yes its physically demanding but jeez, shut the frick up about being "grown arse men".
You get paid, ridiculously well to play a GAME. Yes its physically demanding but jeez, shut the frick up about being "grown arse men".
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:48 am to Chad504boy
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would you like to explain to us the benefits of rape as well?
for the rapee or the raper?
That's in poor taste even for you.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:49 am to A2
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That's in poor taste even for you.
it was a equally idiotic analogy.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:52 am to Chad504boy
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it was a equally idiotic analogy.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:53 am to A2
bullying? it teaches you that there is stratification in life. you can be the alpha, but you won't always be the alpha. you learn how groups perceive value/strength and how they reward those with the characteristics and punish those without. these lessons, while harsh, are very important for the development of the concept of self and the concept of conformity/individuality. these are value judgments that can only really be formed through stratification. you don't have to accept bullying, just as you don't have to reject bullying.
hazing is very important for groups. it strips the individuality from a person so they understand they're not an individual working with other individuals. they are part of a group, and they must sacrifice parts of themselves to better the group. martin, for an easy example, refused to do this, so he could never be considered part of the group. the military is another good (yet extreme) example. if you have to work as a unit, you can only do that if everyone is acting as a unit, and not a group of individuals. even a single individual can destroy the unit in whatever conflict the group is formed to participate in
hazing is very important for groups. it strips the individuality from a person so they understand they're not an individual working with other individuals. they are part of a group, and they must sacrifice parts of themselves to better the group. martin, for an easy example, refused to do this, so he could never be considered part of the group. the military is another good (yet extreme) example. if you have to work as a unit, you can only do that if everyone is acting as a unit, and not a group of individuals. even a single individual can destroy the unit in whatever conflict the group is formed to participate in
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:54 am to Chad504boy
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That's in poor taste even for you.
it was a equally idiotic analogy.
And you had to go there still?
You don't have to opine on everything. Restraint is a virtue.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:54 am to 632627
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would you like to explain to us the benefits of rape as well?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:54 am to A2
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What industries is bullying beneficial in?
Industries where you will be dealing with a lot of failure in your entire career. Yet again, if you are some sort of salesman, the company and the people you work with need to know you won't just walk out in the middle of a tough negotitation because your feelings were hurt or your crumbled under the pressure.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:56 am to A2
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You don't have to opine on everything. Restraint is a virtue.
Maybe you shouldve restrained from bringing up rape in the first place
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:57 am to 632627
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would you like to explain to us the benefits of rape as well?
Woah. I missed this the first time around.
I can't believe how ignorant that statement is. Has bullying caused me some distress in my life? Yes. I've seen what rape does to people, it destroys them. Too many of my friends have been raped at some point in my life, and you can tell it's just an open wound at all times.
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