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Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you put VY on USC and they win 2003, 2004, and 2005 easily. You put ML on Texas and they don't ever win
That's about as plain as it gets and it's true. VY wow.... That was one of the cooler non LSU moments I've seen in CF.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:44 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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No way. Young wasn't nearly as good as Leinart before that last season. I agree out of the 2 of them that Young was the better player for one single season, but Leinart had a better career.
So you think if Young had played with Reggie Bush, LenDale White, Dwayne Jarrett and in the Pac-10 with that USC team that he would have fared worse than Leinart?
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:46 pm to Augustus
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So you think if Young had played with Reggie Bush, LenDale White, Dwayne Jarrett and in the Pac-10
whoa
don't bring up the pac10 when vince did his damage against the big 12
and vince did have sick talent around him, for the record
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:47 pm to Augustus
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So you think if Young had played with Reggie Bush, LenDale White, Dwayne Jarrett and in the Pac-10 with that USC team that he would have fared worse than Leinart?
Young vastly improved over his time at Texas. Leinart was a stud from the get go. I already said Young was better his last year, but he just wasn't the incredible ball player before that IMO. His passing improved tremendously.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:49 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Young vastly improved over his time at Texas.
the main difference was when mack allowed vince to be vince. after that he was a completely different QB
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:49 pm to Lando Calrissian
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My guess is that Tebow had played at Texas and you currently had Young, your view would be slightly different.
vince young is currently the greatest college football player i've ever seen. so, no, methinks you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
having that said, tebow is well ahead of schedule to surpass young by the time he leaves.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:51 pm to 12gauge
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vince young is currently the greatest college football player i've ever seen
Fo real?
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the main difference was when mack allowed vince to be vince. after that he was a completely different QB
Maybe so, when it is all said and done I don't think you can say he had a better College career or was a better College QB for his career then Leinart. Leinart can end up going down as a Danny Wuerful, but he had an incredible run. Booty came in right behind him as a top recruit and looked like shite IMO.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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very good way to describe the difference
haha i couldnt find any other words to seperate them. they cant really be compared imo. its never really fair to compare QBs who arent the same style player. in a straight up schoolyard pick, id take VY
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:53 pm to Lester Earl
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Fo real?
i can't think of a guy who was more dominant on the field who provided the intangibles that young did
how many individual players transform programs?
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:55 pm to Lester Earl
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Fo real?
historically, you'd have to point to tommie frazier or barry sanders or someone
but from my timeframe of seriously watching cfb (2000-present) yeah, young is the best.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how many individual players transform programs?
FWIW, if I'm not mistaken Brett Farve beat both LSU and Florida St. with Southern Miss talent around him and Curly fricking Hallman calling the shots.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:57 pm to 12gauge
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historically, you'd have to point to tommie frazier or barry sanders or someone
well sanders is a RB, and you can argue literally 50 RBs. sanders had the best seasons, but you can make the arguments for others
and vince young is tommie frazier with the ability to throw for 3,000 yards
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
i still get chills watching this..
NC on line 4th and 4
I remember that play like it happened in slow motion. i literally couldnt believe what i had seen. that was one of the most amazing performances, and he capped it off in perfect fashion
NC on line 4th and 4
I remember that play like it happened in slow motion. i literally couldnt believe what i had seen. that was one of the most amazing performances, and he capped it off in perfect fashion
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:decent analogy.
i enjoy watching young much more than i enjoy watching tebow, just like how i prefer watching a WR in the open field and not a fullback
The only 3 people I have seen COMPLETELY take over a football game has been Vince Young, Adrian Peterson, and Bo Jackson.
Off the top of my head:
Adrian Peterson vs. Tulsa (3 years ago?)
Bo Jackson vs. Tecmo Bowl
Vince Young vs. Everyone he played in college.
I can't think of a better one man show in college ball than VY.
for 12gauge:
VY > TT and it is not close.
VY was robbed for not winning the Heisman his Jr. year.
TT got it last year by default.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:58 pm to 12gauge
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historically, you'd have to point to tommie frazier or barry sanders or someone
Frazier's O-line and RB he was pitching to, helped him a ton. Big reason for his success. Sanders was the best I have ever seen play college football. I was to young for anyone before that.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i can't think of a guy who was more dominant on the field who provided the intangibles that young did
I wouldnt even call him the top "running" QB i have ever seen.
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how many individual players transform programs?
I dont think he transformed Texas. Maybe "defined" or "put them over the top", I wouldnt say transformed.
Posted on 7/27/08 at 6:59 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/27/08 at 7:00 pm to Roaad
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VY > TT and it is not close.
ahahahah
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