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If the BIG expanded west...
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:33 pm
and grabbed Utah, TT, and Arizona schools... then they have a true West division and scheduling pod. 22 teams, 10 teams in "West" pod, the current 4 west coast schools, the 4 above, Nebraska, and Minnesota (went with Minn bc major airport and easy access compared to Iowa).
I get all the east schools mentioned in expansion, but a western look with solid respected academic and athletic schools in major markets (TT is the outlier but has a bright future with investments)... This should be discussed more.
I get all the east schools mentioned in expansion, but a western look with solid respected academic and athletic schools in major markets (TT is the outlier but has a bright future with investments)... This should be discussed more.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:43 pm to nola tiger lsu
They should contract and the PAC 10 reforms without Colorado and Utah.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:46 pm to nola tiger lsu
Texas Tech doesn't have a shot in hell with the snobs in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.
Best you could do is Utah, Colorado, and the AZ schools. But I seriously doubt anyone wants to do that travel for football, much less smaller sports like basketball and soccer.
Their current format is as good as it's going to get since Stanford and Cal obviously weren't worth the money.
Best you could do is Utah, Colorado, and the AZ schools. But I seriously doubt anyone wants to do that travel for football, much less smaller sports like basketball and soccer.
Their current format is as good as it's going to get since Stanford and Cal obviously weren't worth the money.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:50 pm to nola tiger lsu
I’m sure Minnesota as a founding member of the B1G will be thrilled to get relegated to a west coast pod where they’ll be constantly traveling 1000+ miles for conference road games
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:51 pm to jfan244888
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Best you could do is Utah, Colorado, and the AZ schools. But I seriously doubt anyone wants to do that travel for football, much less smaller sports like basketball and soccer.
CO probably is better than TT. Your point about travel though coincides with the point Im making, this creates a pod out west and the west schools mostly travel to west schools except for a few crossover games in the smaller sports. In football youd have something like a 6 within a pod, 3 outside type setup.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:01 pm to nola tiger lsu
USC left the PAc-12 primarily because of the leftovers like ASU and Oregon St. and Ohio St. is already complaining now about the revenue split now. They are really not going to be happy if they have start sharing the pie with the participation trophies like Utah.
The only growth now for them is in the East, especially now that potential targets Miami and GT ( who the SEC is not adding) seem to be back on the upswing..Virginia is another one that could move if they continue on the current path.
The battle will be in the East, not the West. There isn't enough football interest out West to warrant more major movement unless the ACC folds and Cal/Stanford need a new home. But we are 6 years from deciding all that.
The only growth now for them is in the East, especially now that potential targets Miami and GT ( who the SEC is not adding) seem to be back on the upswing..Virginia is another one that could move if they continue on the current path.
The battle will be in the East, not the West. There isn't enough football interest out West to warrant more major movement unless the ACC folds and Cal/Stanford need a new home. But we are 6 years from deciding all that.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:14 pm to nola tiger lsu
Modern college football has made me a boomer I think. I miss the old conferences and rivalries, I miss the MAC playing during the week for airtime, I miss Ron Franklin, I suck.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:23 am to Cleathecat
Ron Franklin was the shite
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:53 am to Cleathecat
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Modern college football has made me a boomer I think. I miss the old conferences and rivalries, I miss the MAC playing during the week for airtime, I miss Ron Franklin, I suck.
Nah, that was college footballs golden days. The chaos of the BCS and regional peculiarities was the most fun part of college football. It’s not the best football product out there but the weirdness of it made for much more exciting viewing.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:39 am to Cleathecat
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I miss the old conferences and rivalries
Teams/fans acted like traveling to the other side of the Country for an OOC game was an arduous wagon trek, even as,late as the GOAT decade 2000-2010.
Conferences and fan bases were VERY regional still, insular scheduling (see Georgia traveling out of SEC territory once every 50 years), very tribal... See the height of Conference boasting and arguing during this period.
Now? Penn State lost their early season Super Bowl at home in a Whiteout only to have to fly out to the Rose Bowl the next week to play UCLA something that would only usually happen on January 1st in days past.
Things were so regional at one time, Bo Schembechler once famously complained that Big10 champions were disadvantaged in the postseason because they had to fly out West and play in the California sun where it thinned the Midwest players blood and made them sluggish and slow.
And what is the SEC now? And playoffs? There's no geography, Conferences wanting money, will travel...players wanting money, have Portal, will transfer. The sport is a borderless Amoeba with constant realignment and confused fan loyalty.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 1:40 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:18 am to nola tiger lsu
The only remaining step is raiding the ACC. If Utah and Colorado and all them were profitable, they’d have been snatched up when the PAC-12 imploded.
My pipe dream is that the conferences finally tell the NCAA to pound sand and build their own official governing body for college football. Then that governing body splits everybody back up into conferences and divisions that make geographic and historic/rivalry sense.
My pipe dream is that the conferences finally tell the NCAA to pound sand and build their own official governing body for college football. Then that governing body splits everybody back up into conferences and divisions that make geographic and historic/rivalry sense.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:23 am to nola tiger lsu
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This should be discussed more.
Maybe in a few years. The schools you mentioned are members of the big12 and have signed a GOR with the big12 until 2031.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:24 am to nola tiger lsu
Big10 is big on academics.
They would never take TT or party schools like Arizona State
They would never take TT or party schools like Arizona State
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:08 am to higgsBoson
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Nah, that was college footballs golden days. The chaos of the BCS and regional peculiarities was the most fun part of college football. It’s not the best football product out there but the weirdness of it made for much more exciting viewing.
The BCS chaos made me watch a lot more random games with a rooting interest because I wanted certain teams to lose and drop in the BCS standings. Or because the BCS standings were so close and you needed random G5 teams to win their late season games to boost your team's SOS ranking.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:19 am to Toxic Dude
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party schools like Arizona State
ASU is a strong academic school despite a party image.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:23 am to OKBoomerSooner
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My pipe dream is that the conferences finally tell the NCAA to pound sand and build their own official governing body for college football. Then that governing body splits everybody back up into conferences and divisions that make geographic and historic/rivalry sense.
Would be nice, but why would the B1G and SEC schools go for that when under the current system, they make the biggest amount on TV revenues. They have no reason for wanting to create a system where the current Big 12 and ACC schools would be on equal footing with the P2 for revenue sharing.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:25 am to nola tiger lsu
The B1G should only be trying to add notre dame and Miami. No need to expand after that
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 10:26 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:58 am to nola tiger lsu
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ASU is a strong academic school despite a party image
The Nobel Prize in chemistry was announced today, and one of the three winners was Berkeley professor Omar Yaghi (of course). But I looked up where he did his prize-winning research, and it turns out he did it at Arizona State in the 90s. So yeah, ASU ain't bad.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:23 pm to Boodis Man
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The B1G should only be trying to add notre dame and Miami. No need to expand after that
Conspiracy theory, Bill B and Dabo were contracted by the ACC commissioner to tank UNC and Clemson football, making them unattractive to potential suitors, to keep the ACC together
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