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re: If that's not a catch rule has gone too far
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It never hit the ground. If he's on his back in the end zone it's a touchdown.
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The ground can cause an incompletion not a fumble.
I thought so too until that happened to the Saints.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He had to survive the ground.
He never lost ball
My eyes say that's a TD
Rule is terrible
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:20 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
quote:only if the wr is out of bounds. If chase is moving horizontally it's still a td. The incompletion was because he lost possession and regained it out of bounds. As a big burrow and chase fan it sucks but it's the right letter of the law.
The ground can't cause a fumble but if it causes the ball to move a count hair , even though it never hits the ground, it's incomplete.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:21 pm to thelawnwranglers
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He never lost ball
He did. Come on. At one point he didn't have a single hand on the ball.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If you catch the ball control it through three steps and it pops loose after you hit the ground that's an incomplete pass rather than a ground caused fumble?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:23 pm to Froman
quote:Well if a player isn't touched down then yeah. If a guy is running, falls down and the ground causes a fumble is a loose ball.
thought so too until that happened to the Saints.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:25 pm to Adajax
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you catch the ball control it through three steps and it pops loose after you hit the ground that's an incomplete pass rather than a ground caused fumble?
A wr has to survive the ground. A ball carrier doesn't. After three steps a wr would be a ball carrier
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They are arguing he shouldn't have to. That's what the rule should be
Some are
Most are arguing that the call is wrong, and the game is rigged
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
A wr has to survive the ground. A ball carrier doesn't. After three steps a wr would be a ball carrier
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You saw him fumble it out of his body and onto the ground ?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:29 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
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never hit the ground. If he's on his back in the end zone it's a touchdown.
He regains possession out of bounds. A wr has to survive a fall to the ground and a defender.not touching the ground wasn't the issue.
1. He caught the ball and got two feet in.
2.he then goes to the ground and loses possession
3. He regains possession while out of bounds.( if he regains possession in bounds its a td because it never hit the ground)
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He did. Come on. At one point he didn't have a single hand on the ball.
And at one point he had both hands on the ball with both feet and a knee down.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:29 pm to lsufan112001
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You saw him fumble it out of his body and onto the ground ?
Nope. I saw him lose possession when he went to the ground and regained it out of bounds.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:30 pm to thelawnwranglers
Here’s why the current application of the catch rule is BS in the NFL:
-if that exact play (the chase TD play) occurs in the middle of the field at let’s say the 30 yard line, it is a catch 100% of the time because the ball never hit the ground.
-in the reality of what happened on that Chase play, he clearly possesses the ball with 2 feet in bounds. According to the NFL’s own rules which are still on the books, possession in bounds marks a player “in the field of play” to where the position of the boundary marker is irrelevant to possession of the ball. He would simply have to keep the ball from hitting the ground. had the ball popped out and away from the player upon striking the ground, it would be a different story.
However the NFL has just made up their own “Control the ball through the ground” interpretation that contradicts their own rule still on the books.
-if that exact play (the chase TD play) occurs in the middle of the field at let’s say the 30 yard line, it is a catch 100% of the time because the ball never hit the ground.
-in the reality of what happened on that Chase play, he clearly possesses the ball with 2 feet in bounds. According to the NFL’s own rules which are still on the books, possession in bounds marks a player “in the field of play” to where the position of the boundary marker is irrelevant to possession of the ball. He would simply have to keep the ball from hitting the ground. had the ball popped out and away from the player upon striking the ground, it would be a different story.
However the NFL has just made up their own “Control the ball through the ground” interpretation that contradicts their own rule still on the books.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:30 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
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And at one point he had both hands on the ball with both feet and a knee down.
Correct, but he list possession of it and regained it out of bounds, therefore it’s an incomplete pass.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:30 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
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And at one point he had both hands on the ball with both feet and a knee down.
And then he has to survive going to throw ground while having possession the entire time. You can disagree with the rule but by the rule its an incompletion.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:31 pm to boston vol
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Correct, but he list possession of it and regained it out of bounds, therefore it’s an incomplete pass.
This
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:32 pm to Brightside Bengal
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that exact play (the chase TD play) occurs in the middle of the field at let’s say the 30 yard line, it is a catch 100% of the time because the ball never hit the ground.
So you think endzones should be infinite? Should there be no out of bounds vertically?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You can disagree with the rule
Isn't that what we are doing lol?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:35 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Isn't that what we are doing lol?
Some are saying he never lost possession.
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