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re: If Peyton wins on Sunday, he will have a higher Super Bowl win % than Brady
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Irrelevent to the topic at hand.
What do we remember most? Brady leading a Super Bowl winning drive in the final seconds or Kurt Warner throwing for nearly 400 yards in a valiant (but losing) effort against a tough Patriots defense?
I remember the onsides kick more than any other play from the Saints Super Bowl, does that mean a kicker has the better legacy than Brees?
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:30 pm to RollTide1987
quote:By any logical means, his legacy would be better if he plays great and loses opposed to playing terrible and winning.
Another Super Bowl ring, no matter how he earns it, will add to his legacy
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:30 pm to shel311
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I remember the onsides kick more than any other play from the Saints Super Bowl, does that mean a kicker has the better legacy than Brees?
And I remember Manning's pick six with 3 minutes left more than any other play from that game.
I also remember Brees completing 32 of his 39 passes as well as winning the Super Bowl MVP.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:31 pm to RollTide1987
Ok, then maybe we are agreeing. Lol
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:32 pm to RollTide1987
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Aikman is definitely a Top 10-15 all-time QB though.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:33 pm to shel311
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By any logical means, his legacy would be better if he plays great and loses opposed to playing terrible and winning.
That's a matter of opinion. He played mediocre in his one and only Super Bowl win but everyone ignored that and saw that he'd finally gotten that particular monkey off his back.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
And just so we're clear. I'm not saying we should judge a QB's legacy on championships alone. A combination of stats, postseason play, as well as Super Bowl rings should be used to determine a GOAT at the QB position.
That's why I still have Montana as my #1 with Manning behind him at #2.
That's why I still have Montana as my #1 with Manning behind him at #2.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:40 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Just because "everyone" thinks one way doesn't make it so.
. He played mediocre in his one and only Super Bowl win but everyone ignored that and saw that he'd finally gotten that particular monkey off his back.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:40 pm to RollTide1987
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You realize Jerry Rice wasn't on all Montana's Super Bowl teams right?
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Jerry Rice was only present on the '88 and '89 Super Bowl teams. Montana had dick to work with in '81 and still won the title. He also didn't have a truly dominant receiver threat in 1984 and yet went 15-1 and beat Marino and the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
And then, silence
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:41 pm to shel311
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Irrelevent to the topic at hand.
I remember the onsides kick more than any other play from the Saints Super Bowl, does that mean a kicker has the better legacy than Brees?
Over the pick six? No you don't.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:43 pm to Korin
quote:Must be easy to be right when you pretend you know the thoughts of others.
Over the pick six? No you don't
Onside kick, by a wide margin.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:46 pm to theunknownknight
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The fact people even put Brady in the same sentence with Manning is a joke to begin with.
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IF Manning wins Sunday he'll be the GOAT.
Nope..........
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:46 pm to Urban OhiO
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Manning has played with double the pro bowlers than has Brady. He should have a higher percentage.
Count the pro bowlers on defense for both teams and get back to me.
Having more pro bowlers on offense actually HELPS Manning's case because he elevates the entire offense no matter where he goes. As I always say, this is proof he IS the system.
The only pro bowl count that really makes the difference is on the other side of the ball.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:48 pm to RollTide1987
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That's why I still have Montana as my #1 with Manning behind him at #2.
Elway
Graham
Montana
Brady
Manning
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:49 pm to RollTide1987
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He was magnificent in the final minute and a half. He led his team down the field with 80 seconds to play and set up the game winning field goal.
Let's not blow it out of proportion. He made some key passes and didn't screw up. It's not like he lead the team down the field 80 yards for the game winning last second touchdown.
He took care of the ball and left the game in the special teams' hands. The DEFINITION of a system QB.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:50 pm to shel311
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Onside kick, by a wide margin.
Game changer.................. FACT.........
Prob the most gutsy move in SB history..........
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:51 pm to hikingfan
WOW, AMAZING STAT
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:53 pm to dukke v
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Elway
Graham
Montana
Brady
Manning
That list is ALL kinds of screwed up.
The best QB to EVER play the game can't also have the worst career SB QB rating in HISTORY with multiple SB starts.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:54 pm to theunknownknight
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He took care of the ball and left the game in the special teams' hands. The DEFINITION of a system QB.
And Manning has never done this?????? Look I love Manning.. He is a coach on the field.. The BEEST EVER at this[in reg season].... But Brady has had no-name wr's and made them great to win for his team.... You can take ANY NFL stats and shove them comparing Manning to Brady.....
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:58 pm to dukke v
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And Manning has never done this?????? Look I love Manning.. He is a coach on the field.. The BEEST EVER at this[in reg season].... But Brady has had no-name wr's and made them great to win for his team.... You can take ANY NFL stats and shove them comparing Manning to Brady.....
I'm not saying Manning NEVER did that. I'm saying Brady has done that WAY MORE than people are willing to admit.
Brady was simply good during the Super Bowl winning years. That's a fact. He wasn't legendary, or even great. During this time frame, his stats were comparable to Joe Flacco's up until the end of last year. Look it up.
Now...that isn't to say Brady didn't BECOME all-time great LATER. Because he did get better...most notibly throwing to two HOF receivers. But he wasn't as good as people think he was when they were winning Super Bowls.
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