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re: If LeBron was on the lakers....
Posted on 5/19/10 at 2:54 pm to YoungJR24
Posted on 5/19/10 at 2:54 pm to YoungJR24
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Yeah cause Boston was the best team in 08 all year long. Best regular season record, home court advantage and everything.
I really think you're not understanding the difference between regular season and post-season. Are you saying this Boston team now is ANY bit the same as the regular season? NOpe.
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Who was the best team this year?
The Lakers. You're busy getting caught up in records a bit too much.
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Who did everybody pick to win the East and win it all?
Now you're getting downright delusional if you think "everybody" picked the Cavs to beat the Lakers.
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One major difference is in 08 the Lakers had to go to Boston and came home down 0-2. This year the Cavs were at home and left to go to Boston tied 1-1. Playing bad on the road and playing bad at home are 2 completely different things.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Both series went 6 games. Both series had 3 home games and 3 road games. Both series the Celtics won 4 games to 2, correct?
Yea, big difference.
This debate has gotten truly, truly weird at this point. I've never seen such odd arguments.
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Posted on 5/19/10 at 2:57 pm to shel311
Yeah but having to play 2 on the road to start off with is completely different from having the first 2 in your own gym.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 2:59 pm to YoungJR24
something for you fan boys:
Some of you keep referencing how kobe took the great suns team to 7 games and the importance of this....WELL, the following season Lebron and the Cavs took Boston to 7 games and lost game 7 by 5 points. Lebron scored 45 in a losing effort.
That same season in the NBA Finals the Lakers lost to Boston in 6 games, losing game 6 by 39 points. Kobe scored 22 in a losing effort.
Point is, shut the frick up about the Lakers losing a 7 game series to Phoenix, that shite doesn't hold up.
Some of you keep referencing how kobe took the great suns team to 7 games and the importance of this....WELL, the following season Lebron and the Cavs took Boston to 7 games and lost game 7 by 5 points. Lebron scored 45 in a losing effort.
That same season in the NBA Finals the Lakers lost to Boston in 6 games, losing game 6 by 39 points. Kobe scored 22 in a losing effort.
Point is, shut the frick up about the Lakers losing a 7 game series to Phoenix, that shite doesn't hold up.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 2:59 pm to YoungJR24
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Yeah but having to play 2 on the road to start off with is completely different from having the first 2 in your own gym.
So, that's it. That explains and excuses Kobe and we'll forget about his terrible last 3 games.
But Lebron gets absolutely murdered for his last 3 games.
All because Boston played 2 home games first.
That's the logic?
Posted on 5/19/10 at 3:27 pm to shel311
The logic is Cleveland was the best team in basketball and they lost to a 4 seed. A 4 seed by the way that lost 1 game and was a PP game winner away from losing another to the one man show Heat. Boston is not that good, they are exposing Orlando as the team they were all year up until that little run they made at the end of the year.
The Lakers lost to a better team in the Celtics.
The Lakers lost to a better team in the Celtics.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 3:56 pm to YoungJR24
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Boston is not that good
We'll see what you think after the NBA Finals.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 3:58 pm to PortCityTiger24
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I just don't know how you guys can not step out of Kobe's a-hole for a few moments and take a common sense approach. Kobe has never won a title without an elite big man on his team, Lebron has never HAD an elite big man or even an elite number two option on his team. Kobe has played for one of the most successful coaches in NBA history, Lebron has played for Mike fricking Brown. Kobe has so many advantages over Lebron it's not even funny. I will never understand why you pussies feel like you have to bash Lebron, Jordan, and anyone else that Kobe has been compared to.
Yeah. Ok.
So the argument is:
Kobe's done nothing because he has players/coaches to win with.
Lebron's done nothing because he doesn't have players/coaches to win with.
So, let me guess: If and when Lebron wins a championship, the Lebrononites will harp that he's the greatest player ever, even if he has great players around him. Got it.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:02 pm to Freauxzen
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Fact of the matter, Kobe popped 40 on the Suns the other night, while the team with the best record sits at home. And "The King," defenders whine about not having the right players around him.
He's not even a "king defender". Most of the people posting in this thread aren't partial to either player; they're just tired of the idiocy from the extreme Kobe fans who run down every player they see as a threat to their hero's legacy (Jordan, Shaq, Lebron, etc.)
You should really stick to the movie board.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:03 pm to Freauxzen
quote:your reading comprehension is terrible
Yeah. Ok.
So the argument is:
Kobe's done nothing because he has players/coaches to win with.
Lebron's done nothing because he doesn't have players/coaches to win with.
So, let me guess: If and when Lebron wins a championship, the Lebrononites will harp that he's the greatest player ever, even if he has great players around him. Got it.
Fact of the matter, Kobe popped 40 on the Suns the other night, while the team with the best record sits at home. And "The King," defenders whine about not having the right players around him.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:07 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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extreme Kobe fans who run down every player they see as a threat to their hero's legacy (Jordan, Shaq, Lebron, etc.)
I might have missed it but I dont recall a single person on this board saying that Kobe is somehow better than Jordan. Jordan is the GOAT and the only ones I seem to be saying different are the Lebrontards from time to time.
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:08 pm to Freauxzen
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Yeah. Ok.
So the argument is:
Kobe's done nothing because he has players/coaches to win with.
Lebron's done nothing because he doesn't have players/coaches to win with.
Umm...no?
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And "The King," defenders whine about not having the right players around him.
If you would have read a little more you would know that most of us don't give a shite about Lebron or Kobe.
Who said that Kobe has done nothing? You might need to go back to the LOST threads, friend.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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He's not even a "king defender".
So a "Kobe hater" then. Either way the statement is pretty much trying to tear down Kobe. "He has big men and Hall of Fame Coaches." As if Kobe isn't responsible.
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Most of the people posting in this thread aren't partial to either player;
That's a lot of posts for people who are "impartial."
Maybe my last statement was out of line, but I still think that if and when Lebron wins, it won't matter who is around him like it does for all of the anti-Kobe arguments.
Say he joins the Heat and wins next year, you really think people would make the same statement and in attempts to downplay Lebron's stature? That's more my point.
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You should really stick to the movie board.
Don't try to be an internet tough guy like this is your territory. Please, that's weak.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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You should really stick to the movie board.
beat me to it
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:12 pm to PortCityTiger24
PortCityHollinger24
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:13 pm to Freauxzen
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So a "Kobe hater" then. Either way the statement is pretty much trying to tear down Kobe. "He has big men and Hall of Fame Coaches." As if Kobe isn't responsible.
So stating the obvious = Kobe hater?? I simply said that Kobe has never won without arguably the best coach of all time and an elite big, while Lebron has never played with either. How does that make me a Kobe hater?
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:13 pm to Ron Mexico
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PortCityHollinger24
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:18 pm to PortCityTiger24
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I simply said that Kobe has never won without arguably the best coach of all time and an elite big, while Lebron has never played with either.
That's basically saying Kobe isn't responsible for his what he has done, and Lebron isn't responsible for what he hasn't.
Therefore, my guess:
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So, let me guess: If and when Lebron wins a championship, the Lebrononites will harp that he's the greatest player ever, even if he has great players around him. Got it.
I bet this whole "which player has what players around him" argument will be gone if and when Lebron wins a championship.
FWIW, I thought I was responding to shel311, who's line seemed to be more anti-Kobe, supporting cast blah blah. Copy and pasted, rather than replied directly. My fault.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:24 pm to Freauxzen
i just love how all season long i heard the cavs are the best. no ones stopping lebron this year. they will destroy the lakers etc. now all of a sudden hes got the worst supporting cast ever 
this is awesome!!!
this is awesome!!!Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:24 pm to Freauxzen
you're a dimwit.
no one said kobe isn't responsible for winning those championships. we are saying it sure as hell helps when you have another elite player playing with him (a luxury lebron hasn't been given). kobe has shown he can't win without another elite player around him.
no one said kobe isn't responsible for winning those championships. we are saying it sure as hell helps when you have another elite player playing with him (a luxury lebron hasn't been given). kobe has shown he can't win without another elite player around him.
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/19/10 at 4:27 pm to Louie T
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no one said kobe is responsible for winning those championships
Huh?
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