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re: How overrated is Tom Izzo?

Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:00 pm to
19 straight years in the tournament, 7 regular season conference championships, 4 conference tournament championships, 7 final fours and a national title is pretty good in my opinion.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32894 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:01 pm to
I feel like MSU is the one team you can usually write into the sweet sixteen so I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshite.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11951 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:02 pm to
Izzo, Coach K, Pitino have lost 1st Rd games as the much higher seed. It happens
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37939 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:02 pm to
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I will never understand why this board thinks Izzo is one of the greatest and Cal sucks
It's because they consider Izzo blue-collar and Cal a snake oil salesman.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99933 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:03 pm to
If they were "much higher" they'd be a #1. State was the #2.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:03 pm to
Was listening to a podcast earlier in the week that annointed Roy Williams as the best tournament coach based off of all sorts of metrics.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:04 pm to
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I will never understand why this board thinks Izzo is one of the greatest and Cal sucks


Because Izzo is a great coach. But I agree with you about Cal, I don't get why people think he sucks either.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:05 pm to
This is the intellect of AU basketball fan.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96810 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Because Izzo is a great coach. But I agree with you about Cal, I don't get why people think he sucks either.
This is what I was trying to say. I think they are both great. But this board as a whole seems to only support one
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14157 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:10 pm to
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This is what I was trying to say. I think they are both great. But this board as a whole seems to only support one


I have no problem with Cal, but let's not try to act like his past isn't a reason he gets shite. 2 final fours vacated,etc

That is why he gets shite.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:13 pm to


Doesn't make sense to me either
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21385 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:13 pm to
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AU24


Alex, I'll take "who's still recovering from a blackout St. Patrick's Day" for $1000
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71979 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:15 pm to
There or the Final Four
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:17 pm to
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I have no problem with Cal, but let's not try to act like his past isn't a reason he gets shite. 2 final fours vacated,etc

That is why he gets shite.


Try to find some HOF coach that hasn't had some shady shite happen in their career. It is pretty damn rare.

The stuff Cal got in trouble for are pretty damn weak too.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:18 pm to
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The stuff Cal got in trouble for are pretty damn weak too.


This. People love to talk about the trouble, but I doubt anyone ever looks at why it happened.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96810 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 4:19 pm to
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People love to talk about the trouble, but I doubt anyone ever looks at why it happened.
Neither had anything to do with Cal. Especially the UMASS situation. Why the hell would the head coach want his stud player talking to agents?
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