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How much harder is it actually for an athlete to get into Notre Dame than...

Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:37 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:37 am
it is an SEC school? I never thought there was much of a difference.
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Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:42 am to
According to Charlie Weis, significantly.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:42 am to
You're kidding, right?
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:43 am to
are there standards really that much higher than the NCAA minimums? I didnt think they were but i mean i dont know for sure.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:44 am to
I'm not sure but I do know the Golic family was able to get in...
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:46 am to
listening to Cowherd?

I think it's higher than the NCAA minimum, but I also think that the amount of leeway given to certain athletes is directly proportional to their talent level.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:50 am to
Higher than every school in the SEC other than vandy
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:51 am to
I know athletes are usually dumb and get more leeway but I got into Notre Dame. It's not "Ivy League" tough, it is much harder though than SEC schools not named Vandy.


I doubt Demetrius Byrd would meet their minimum requirements.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Notre Dame than it is an SEC school? I never thought there was much of a difference.



roughly the same; for admission, ND does require a foreign language and calculus credit which i ASSUME most sec schools do not.

as far as GPA, ACT, SAT, etc...ND judges athletes on a sliding scale. in other words if you only had a 17 on your ACT but a 3.0 GPA that'd be enough to qualify and vice-versa.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 10:53 am
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:54 am to
I could've seen you and Touchdown Jesus breaking communion bread together.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:54 am to
You need a foreign language credit to be eligible for TOPS in Louisiana.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:56 am to
quote:

listening to Cowherd?


No im not. Is he talking about it right now? I did hear him talking about it last week at one point and he kept harping on the type of athlete that SEC schools recruit could never get into Notre Dame. And i just dont think that's true.
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:57 am to
quote:

You're kidding, right?


not at all and per rocket im correct. why would i be kidding?
Posted by hendersonshands
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160200 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:58 am to
Touchdown Jesus didn't want to give me enough scholarship money. Really solid reminder that Jesus was Jewish.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:58 am to
quote:

ND judges athletes on a sliding scale.


Every NCAA School judges on a sliding scale.

NCAA Minimum according to the website says if you had a 3.0 GPA a 620 SAT score gets you into a school that accepts minimum requirements (mostly any SEC school but Vanderbilt)
I don't think Notre Dame takes 3.0 GPA students that got 620s on their SATs

but maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:58 am to
true, i figured most schools require a foreign language but the calculus i doubted...

the athlete unattainable to notre dame is the one from a low-income neighborhood, school district, who does not have an opportunity to take HS calculus. said athlete could take a summer calculus to qualify but few in that situation have the desire.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 10:58 am to
Cat you had demetrius Byrd?

I enjoy his tweets FWIW
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Every NCAA School judges on a sliding scale.


i dont think so.

quote:

I don't think Notre Dame takes 3.0 GPA students that got 620s on their SATs


we have the past two years; i will not name the players although one was a 4 star and one was a 5 star.
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:00 am to
so as a general statement cowherd has no clue what he's talking about.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:02 am to
I mean D-1 School, I would assume they go by these minimum standards for their Football players and Basketball players (the two big sports that the nation cares about)

(Major FBS school with the exception of the Academics like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern etc)

These are the minimum standards according to the website
LINK

to sum it up these are the minimum standards for players trying to play a d-1 sport.

quote:

If you want to participate in athletics or receive an athletics scholarship during your first year, you must:
Graduate from high school;
Complete these 16 core courses:
4 years of English
3 years of math (algebra 1 or higher)
2 years of natural or physical science (including one year of lab science if offered by your high school)
1 extra year of English, math or natural or physical science
2 years of social science
4 years of extra core courses (from any category above, or foreign language, nondoctrinal religion or philosophy);
-Earn a minimum required grade-point average in your core courses; and
-Earn a combined SAT or ACT sum score that matches your corecourse grade-point average and test score sliding scale on page 9 (for example, a 2.400 core-course grade-point average needs an 860 SAT).
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