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How much faster could Usain Bolt have gone?
Posted on 9/12/08 at 12:48 am
Posted on 9/12/08 at 12:48 am
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HOW quickly would Usain Bolt have run the 100 metres at the Beijing Olympics if he hadn't slowed in celebration before the finish line? A team of physicists have calculated an answer: the Jamaican gold medallist could have slashed his time from 9.69 seconds to 9.55 seconds.
In the final 20 metres of the race on 16 August, Bolt extended his arms and thumped his chest in celebration, slowing himself a little. But he still broke the world record he himself had set in May.
Hans Eriksen of the Institute of Theoretical Astrophysics at the University of Oslo, Norway, and his colleagues, who normally spend their time pondering deep mysteries of the cosmos, wondered whether a few simple calculations might reveal how fast Bolt could have run. So, in their spare time, they used television footage to measure Bolt's positions, speeds and accelerations as well as those of the runner-up, Richard Thompson. Their measurements show both Bolt and Thompson decelerating in the final 2 seconds of the race, with a larger drop in speed for Bolt.
The team then calculated what Bolt's time would have been had he only slowed down as much as Thompson, arriving at an answer of 9.61 seconds. But this may be too conservative, given how much Bolt outperformed Thompson in the first 8 seconds of the race. So the team also tried assuming, somewhat arbitrarily, that Bolt would have decelerated less than Thompson, by 0.5 metres per second squared in the final 2 seconds, which they say would have given Bolt a time of 9.55 seconds.
It is difficult to get precise measurements from ordinary TV footage, which records at 30 frames per second or less, says Matthew Bundle of the University of Wyoming in Laramie, who studies human locomotion. More precise human motion studies rely on cameras operating at 125 to 250 frames per second, or on tracking motion with a series of light beams which get tripped as people go by, he says. However, he thinks the team's numbers are reasonable.
"We don't mean to say that this is the final and ultimate result," says Eriksen. "Instead, it's a fun application of simple physics, and we've done the best we can." The researchers have submitted their findings to the American Journal of Physics (www.arxiv.org/abs/0809.0209).
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Posted on 9/12/08 at 1:05 am to chip207
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MSB?
I thought about it....the admins can move it if they have a problem.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 1:43 am to saintforlife
There are at least 25 people on the Rant who could not only beat Bolt in the 100M dash, but could also throw a football at the beginning of the race and catch their own pass (110 yard pass) as they're crossing the finish line.
And, there are at least 15 OTers who will swear that they could correct the calculations of the physicist, citing their 36 ACT scores as proof.
And, there are at least 15 OTers who will swear that they could correct the calculations of the physicist, citing their 36 ACT scores as proof.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 6:59 am to Newbomb Turk
How fast do you think Bolt could run if ran full speed all the way through AND was all roided up??? 8.9?
Posted on 9/12/08 at 7:06 am to NastyTiger
The record was 9.77 before the race. This is saying he could have gone 9.55.
Something is up with this. Give it time, it's too good to be true.
Something is up with this. Give it time, it's too good to be true.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 7:12 am to BBATiger
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Something is up with this. Give it time, it's too good to be true.
Jamaican team apparently is being investigated from earlier reports of HGH shipments.
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So the team also tried assuming, somewhat arbitrarily,
Great science.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 7:41 am to NastyTiger
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How fast do you think Bolt could run if ran full speed all the way through AND was all roided up???
You sure about that one?
Posted on 9/12/08 at 8:31 am to BBATiger
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The record was 9.77 before the race.
Actually it was 9.72, but yea still pretty bad arse.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 9:37 am to saintforlife
9.55 I would def have to test for roids, I think if he went all out like the 200 meters, 9.60 would have been possible, and I thought this was MSB, somebody explain.
Posted on 9/12/08 at 11:22 am to saintforlife
I doubt the 9.55 but believe a 9.60 or so. I read a pretty good article a few weeks ago. The guy went to California to train with some of the Olympic sprinters and their coach. There was also a bunch of kinesiology/physics stuff in there that was interesting. It has been proven that a human cannot keep top speed for 100 meters if he accelerates to top speed as quickly as possible. This means that even in a short race like the 100, there is strategy. They actually “hold themselves back” from reaching top speed until about the 45-55 meter mark. Even then they said to keep top speed through the finish line is almost impossible. So the study that was done was probably assuming he would have maintained that speed through the finish and not slowed down. That’s why I think the 9.55 is a stretch; but that dude was moving and a 9.60 was probably possible. Either way - DAMN!!!
Posted on 9/12/08 at 12:17 pm to etm512
here's what gets me about a lot of these foreign sprinters, they rub it in America's face when they beat there top athlete's, but if ya'll asses wasn't here in this country benefitting fom all the sports technology, nutriton, training, as well as competing in college against top competition, and everything else that goes into being a top sprinter, they asses would never be heard of in the Olympics.
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