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re: How many games would an elite high school all star team win in the MLB?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:04 am to TheIrishFro
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:04 am to TheIrishFro
I think it's retarded to not think it's possible.
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:04 am to TheIrishFro
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it really hurts professional baseball's reputation. Which it shouldn't because it's totally shite.
no it doesn't. This shite argument happens with soccer all the time and so what?
Idiots exist everywhere (hell lots are in this thread) and sometimes it's best to just let them be idiots.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:07 am to LfcSU3520
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What if our HS all star team was from 1965 and had Nolan Ryan on the squad?
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poor example.
Why is this a poor example?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:07 am to LfcSU3520
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This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:08 am to UltimateHog
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I think it's retarded to not think it's possible.
It's further retarded to think it isn't possible and then get really really angry in the process.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:10 am to bobbyray21
The top HS pitcher this year is a 6'6 lefty that hits 100mph routinely.
To think he couldn't have success after a full spring training, with an MLB coaching/pitching staff, and 162 games over a season, is hilarious.
He'd be a million times better come August/September in the MLB, and to think he couldn't shut down a team in mid September who is starting a handful of September call ups because they've clinched a playoff spot is funny as well.
There are so many variables over 162 games and a full spring training, MLB coaching staffs could develop at least a few of those hitters into decent hitters by the end of the season, especially the pitching talent.
To think he couldn't have success after a full spring training, with an MLB coaching/pitching staff, and 162 games over a season, is hilarious.
He'd be a million times better come August/September in the MLB, and to think he couldn't shut down a team in mid September who is starting a handful of September call ups because they've clinched a playoff spot is funny as well.
There are so many variables over 162 games and a full spring training, MLB coaching staffs could develop at least a few of those hitters into decent hitters by the end of the season, especially the pitching talent.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:13 am to bobbyray21
at age 19 (still a year removed from HS mind you) he pitched 3 frickING INNINGS in the majors (because he wasn't good enough to be there yet).
Which tells you what you need to know.
But in those 3 measly innings he gave up 5 hits and 5 earned runs with three walks.
Two years later (now he's THREE years removed from HS) he won SIX games (and that's with an actual major league team around him. Now if anyone else wants to go scrounge up who would've been the team to surround him in 65 I'd love to see their stats from the next few years.
You guys just don't seem to grasp how large the jump really is. Stupidly talented people make the jump faster because they have the ability. However, it's still there. So without a chance to season themselves or learn a bit, they'd have absolutely no chance.
Which tells you what you need to know.
But in those 3 measly innings he gave up 5 hits and 5 earned runs with three walks.
Two years later (now he's THREE years removed from HS) he won SIX games (and that's with an actual major league team around him. Now if anyone else wants to go scrounge up who would've been the team to surround him in 65 I'd love to see their stats from the next few years.
You guys just don't seem to grasp how large the jump really is. Stupidly talented people make the jump faster because they have the ability. However, it's still there. So without a chance to season themselves or learn a bit, they'd have absolutely no chance.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:15 am to UltimateHog
An elite high school program probably has 4 college caliber players on its roster, an elite college program maybe has 4 AA/AAA caliber players on it..and not many make it to the big show. So your facing 9 players from the big show up against 18 year old kids who will be a frat star or grocery store attendant 3 months after the season..this OP is stupid.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:19 am to UltimateHog
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The top HS pitcher this year is a 6'6 lefty that hits 100mph routinely.
so kinda like andrew miller after three years at UNC. Oh.
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There are so many variables over 162 games and a full spring training, MLB coaching staffs could develop at least a few of those hitters into decent hitters by the end of the season, especially the pitching talent.
I'm just telling you, it wouldn't happen. Everything would have to go right in the (hopefully 30 starts for your absolute ace). Because that offense even with big league coaches or whatever, will get demolished on a nightly basis.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:21 am to DaTigahDen
I don't think he's saying a high school team, he's saying all of the top HS players on one team.
Basically the first round and second round of the MLB draft guys from HS, on one team.
HS players drafted in the Top 20-25 almost ALWAYS end up at least at double A, hell, a few of them start at Double A now, at worst Single A.
If the OP is saying a real MLB season, then they'd get a full spring training vs double/triple A guys and MLB guys mixed in plus 162 games in the season.
To think that say, the #1 draft pick, the #3 draft pick, the #6 draft pick, the #8 draft pick, couldn't develop into a decent hitter come game #180 between Spring and MLB, is hilarious, you could develop a few of those guys by that time. Not all pan out no, but you'd learn a lot about the kids through Spring.
Arms can develop the fastest with an MLB caliber pitching staff, and again, a full spring and 162 game season to further develop and learn.
I think that come September, they could win a game.
Basically the first round and second round of the MLB draft guys from HS, on one team.
HS players drafted in the Top 20-25 almost ALWAYS end up at least at double A, hell, a few of them start at Double A now, at worst Single A.
If the OP is saying a real MLB season, then they'd get a full spring training vs double/triple A guys and MLB guys mixed in plus 162 games in the season.
To think that say, the #1 draft pick, the #3 draft pick, the #6 draft pick, the #8 draft pick, couldn't develop into a decent hitter come game #180 between Spring and MLB, is hilarious, you could develop a few of those guys by that time. Not all pan out no, but you'd learn a lot about the kids through Spring.
Arms can develop the fastest with an MLB caliber pitching staff, and again, a full spring and 162 game season to further develop and learn.
I think that come September, they could win a game.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:25 am to UltimateHog
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Arms can develop the fastest with an MLB caliber pitching staff, and again, a full spring and 162 game season to further develop and learn.
this means nothing.
Most of the big league guys are there because they don't know how to work with kids. True story. They know how to work with polished pros, not with starter kits.
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I think that come September, they could win a game.
this might be the only way to put it and even still it's probably not going to happen.
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the #1 draft pick, the #3 draft pick, the #6 draft pick, the #8 draft pick
here's your problem, an offense is 9 guys who have to hit to create enough runs to balance out the beating their pitchers will take. So if say three of those future draft picks were able to grow by the end of the year (which is doubly tough since they'd be failing at EPIC levels) you'd still only be at one below average major league player and he'd be your 'star'. Everyone else would still be dead wood incapable of helping.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:55 am to Tiger1242
very few, but I'm tempted to say they could win a couple if they were lucky enough to have a once in a decade kind of pitcher
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:06 am to LfcSU3520
I'm having a good laugh at everybody arguing with you. I find it comical.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:07 am to molsusports
Unless they have Doc Gooden and zero zero counts as a win its not happening.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:24 am to molsusports
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but I'm tempted to say they could win a couple if they were lucky enough to have a once in a decade kind of pitcher
people don't realize that a once in a decade pitcher still isn't ready to throw to major leaguers. In a year or two he will be, but not right away. So even that kid would show flashes of brilliance (not enough to sustain 9 innings) and then would have to not regress seeing as he'd still be getting his teeth kicked in all season long.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:24 am to BOSCEAUX
it's the gift that keeps on giving
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:47 am to Tiger1242
Zero. What a stupid thread.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 6:28 am to UltimateHog
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hell, a few of them start at Double A now, at worst Single A.
I gave you the roster. Now tell me how many played "at worst" A ball last year.
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To think that say, the #1 draft pick, the #3 draft pick, the #6 draft pick, the #8 draft pick, couldn't develop into a decent hitter come game #180 between Spring and MLB, is hilarious, you could develop a few of those guys by that time. Not all pan out no, but you'd learn a lot about the kids through Spring.
They are slowly developing in rookie ball now. If there souls aren't crushed after 50 ABs in spring training, then I will reevaluate my thoughts on where they might be in September.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 6:34 am to Tiger1242
ZERO
Posted on 4/2/13 at 6:42 am to Tiger1242
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All will get drafted, probably what 3-5 will make it to the bigs, maybe 1-2 will end up as really good players.
You know they will play teams that have 25 guys in the Majors? The answer is 0.
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