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re: How do you determine if a team has a good draft?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:48 pm to pnut53088
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:48 pm to pnut53088
I would say if a team is in rebuild mode they should be graded on if there moves will make then better over the next 2-3 years.
If the team is in win now mode they should e graded on if the team will be better next year and contend forthe SuperBowl after the moves.
If the team is in win now mode they should e graded on if the team will be better next year and contend forthe SuperBowl after the moves.
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Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:51 pm to pnut53088
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If the Saints struggle this year at those positions because they did not address their biggest needs, then one could argue it was not a great draft.
So your proving again that you cant grade a teams draft till you see anyone play. And if the saints didnt have any lbs they thought were going to be good should they have taken one just to fill a "need"?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:53 pm to Swagga
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So your proving again that you cant grade a teams draft till you see anyone play.
right. But we can still give them a "grade" until we see them play.
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And if the saints didnt have any lbs they thought were going to be good should they have taken one just to fill a "need"?
in English please.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:55 pm to Swagga
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And if the saints didnt have any lbs they thought were going to be good should they have taken one just to fill a "need"?
The problem I had was they could have gotten good value on taking Washington at the end of round 1 or possibly trading back. If all the prospects at need positions would have been total reaches it would have Bern understandable, but they weren't. It just seems we were getting greedy by selecting guys that were looking at back up roles in the future instead of talented guys who could compete for a starting position next year.
I think all the picks are solid players, but they probably won't help in a run at the Super Bowl next year.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:56 pm to pnut53088
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right. But we can still give them a "grade" until we see them play.
You mean give them a grade before you see them play? And if so you can, but the criteria is stupid if your moving it for teams etc..
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in English please.
What didnt you understand? Should the Saints take a lb that they dont think will pan out just to fill what you determine is a "need"
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:00 pm to Swagga
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What didnt you understand? Should the Saints take a lb that they dont think will pan out just to fill what you determine is a "need"
not if they "think they won't pan out." The Saints obviously went with value/upside over need, so we'll see how they play at S and LB, especially if their 1st two picks are on the bench.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:02 pm to Colonel Flagg
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I think all the picks are solid players, but they probably won't help in a run at the Super Bowl next year.
this. Mays/Kindle (providing he will be healthy) could have greatly improved LB this year. Our first two draft picks won't see the field this year.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:02 pm to pnut53088
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, so we'll see how they play at S and LB, especially if their 1st two picks are on the bench.
S will be fine they have Malcolm Jenkins and if they don't like what they see from him Sharper is just sitting around.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:03 pm to pnut53088
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not if they "think they won't pan out." The Saints obviously went with value/upside over need, so we'll see how they play at S and LB, especially if their 1st two picks are on the bench.
First, when did safety become a need? Sharper will be back and they can move Jenkins over and Chip Vaughn will be back, theres depth there and no safety really but Mays available when they pick.
If your waiting to see how LB plays this year than whats the point of talking about it now?
What if the guys the Saints drafted all play and play great, but Lb's only play ok. Was it a bad draft?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:04 pm to Swagga
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LB
plus they can always make a trade or pick up a FA.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:05 pm to Swagga
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First, when did safety become a need? Sharper will be back and they can move Jenkins over and Chip Vaughn will be back, theres depth there and no safety really but Mays available when they pick.
If Sharper doesn't come back, who plays S?
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What if the guys the Saints drafted all play and play great, but Lb's only play ok. Was it a bad draft?
How will they play great if they never see the field?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:05 pm to pnut53088
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Our first two draft picks won't see the field this year.
You dont think Robinson will see the field this year?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:06 pm to pnut53088
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If Sharper doesn't come back, who plays S?
Jenkins
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How will they play great if they never see the field?
Your honestly nuts if you dont think Robinson at the least wont see the field.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:07 pm to Swagga
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You dont think Robinson will see the field this year?
He's 4th on the depth chart. Unless he blows the team away this off-season, he will contribute on special teams.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:07 pm to Swagga
Robinson will be the Nickelback or dimeback.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:07 pm to Swagga
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Jenkins
Better hope he's ready.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:09 pm to pnut53088
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He's 4th on the depth chart. Unless he blows the team away this off-season, he will contribute on special teams.
Which would make him a nickel or dime back. And considering Greer and Porters injury history it will make it very possible he'll "see the field"
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:09 pm to pnut53088
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Jenkins
Better hope he's ready.
and if he isn't you guys resign Sharper it isn't hard to figure out.Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:09 pm to Swagga
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You dont think Robinson will see the field this year?
He will be a backup. He won't start over Porter or Greer. If we resign Sharper I doubt he plays much at all.
Picking Jenkins last year was a good pick because we didn't know what we really had at CB or FS. Robinson is pure depth at the moment. It is kind of a luxury I think a team would pass on with the uncertainty at OLB.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 2:10 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Robinson is pure depth at the moment.
the NFL requires 3-4 good cb's.
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