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re: How do the Patriots get so many good white players?

Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:04 pm to
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Because no matter what people say, white skill players are undervalued because of a subliminal bias. The patriots have been able to cut through the bull shite and just draft the player
As said, well put. You certainly have the gift of articulation.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15631 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:46 pm to
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In their offensive system they don't need players with highly pitched talents. Their WRs predominately run option routes so it's more about knowing what route to run when the defense gives a particular look. Of course when they get that highly talented WR that has high football IQ (Moss), the results are even better.


Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen were influential on the offense Patriots run.

The Patriots wanted to learn. “I think what intrigued the Patriots,” Mullen said, “was the definition of the spread for us.”

The answer “was one-on-one matchups, getting to get the defense to declare itself,” said Mullen, now the head coach at Mississippi State. “Once you get the defense to declare as man before the play even happens, for the QB it’s easy.” They can then easily diagnose the coverage and figure where the ball should go.

“The thing about option routes is if I have to coach you on it, you’re not the guy,” Mullen said. “People say, ‘Oh, Wes Welker, great on option routes.’ Well, that’s true. He’s quick, but that’s not why he’s great on option routes. It’s because he and Tom Brady were on the same page, he knew how to take a linebacker, fake one way, set up the fake, then pivot outside.”

“It was something fun to see on TV,” Mullen said. “You’d see a play, or see them create a matchup that we talked about—and they took it to another level.”

The Near-Perfect Football Team



Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:56 pm to
Because they arent racist
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7648 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:58 pm to
It seems like a lot of the guys they take were really productive college players (Carr is like Northwestern's all time receiving leader) but don't necessarily have the measureables. When you play with Brady you just have to be in the right spot and catch the ball, he'll get it to you even if you aren't 6'3 or have blazing speed.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43994 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:27 pm to
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How do the Patriots get so many good white players?


Research?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:56 pm to
They cornered the market
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168457 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:00 pm to
A lot of the smaller schools and regions they scout back east have lots of white talent. Mane ion eem trippin doe saints got dat balla arse tommy lee lewis yall n1g94z think dat boi White already
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:23 am to
They also got two more this year, the Hollister twins as UDFA. Jacob played TE at Wyoming and looked like a stud in the preseason game yesterday (along with Carr). His twin Cody is a WR that played at Arkansas, but I don't think he got in the game.

Austin Carr had 5 catches on 7 targets for 44 yards

Jacob Hollister the TE had 7 catches on 9 targets for 116 yards and just looked damn good. Hurdles a defender on one play
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:15 am to
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How do the Patriots get so many good white players?


The Celtics hook them up.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:47 am to
Bill.

Its only a few guys, total .
So maybe two or three more than you would expect randomly.

Bill is feeding brady.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3445 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:29 am to
Hunter Renfrow up in next years draft. Prime Patriots material.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:33 am to
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Bill also values intelligence, work ethic, and leadership abilities FAR more than other teams. I heard a stat a couple years ago that NE has more college graduates and more former college team captains on its roster than any other team by a mile.


I hadn't heard this before, but comes as no surprise. The Pats are always of sound discipline and seem to have a veteran mindset, even with all the turnover in players and coaches sans Belichick/Brady over the last 15 years.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:44 am to
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IMO, they invest in their lines first, and view every other position as secondary, minus Brady.



You must have missed 2011-2014. Those lines were BRUTAL.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:47 am to
Austin Carr is mixed, guys
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:47 am to
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Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen were influential on the offense Patriots run.



Thanks for posting that.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:49 am to
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but don't necessarily have the measureables.


The Patriots passing offense, especially the underneath stuff, doesn't depend on pure speed. If you're looking for measurables on these guys, check out their three cone times. Edelman's was disgusting if I remember correctly.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15631 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:21 am to
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Thanks for posting that.


That's one of the reasons Dak was able to transition to the NFL so quickly. Mullen had spent 5 years teaching Dak to read defenses and run a similar offense as the Patriot except with shitty linemen and skilled position players
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7648 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:50 am to
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His twin Cody is a WR that played at Arkansas, but I don't think he got in the game.


Yeah I saw where he got hurt a few weeks ago. Figured he might be able to make an impact on special teams but doubt he lasts very long now.
Posted by buccaneer88
San Antonio, TX
Member since Nov 2016
666 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:54 am to
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