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re: He won’t be, but Brock Bowers should be rookie of the year
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:22 pm to diddlydawg7
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:22 pm to diddlydawg7
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But like I said, if you compare Daniels season to other top rookies it doesn’t necessarily stand ou
Of course it doesn’t for someone who definitely doesn’t have an agenda lol
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:22 pm to diddlydawg7
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The resident LSU fans won’t like this
You guys really need to develop your own message board
Lot of anger about lsu fans liking their former players today.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:23 pm to PeteRose
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No one ever says “Denver should win so let’s make them the underdog”.
This is a really poor attempt at making a point
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:25 pm to SirWinston
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2. Nix
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:29 pm to diddlydawg7
Sure why not.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:31 pm to diddlydawg7
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He won’t be, but Brock Bowers should be rookie of the year
The first part of your statement is reality. The second part is a personal desire. My point is that if you set betting lines based on personal desires, it would be a bad idea.
Bowers is still a bad dude.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:39 pm to diddlydawg7
Making the playoffs for a shite franchise is more important than being the best te in the league on a shitty team.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:47 pm to diddlydawg7
Daniels is going to win it easily but Bowers is awesome and going to be a problem for the next 10+ years.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:49 pm to diddlydawg7
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Additionally, unlike Bowers, he’s not the best player at his position.
But he plays the most important position in team sports, not fricking tight end.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:06 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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But he plays the most important position in team sports, not fricking tight end.
Yet, history has shown it’s far more rare for a rookie to be the #1 TE in the NFL than a rookie to be the #7 or #8 QB in the NFL.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:08 pm to RIPMachoMan
Sir Winston is about to lose some coin on his Nix for ROY bet 
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:13 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:He’s had a great season, but the Raiders have a dog shite supporting cast and allowed 434 points this season — playing behind way more often than leading. Who else was the QB going to throw to? The Raiders sucked without him and with him.
Yet, history has shown it’s far more rare for a rookie to be the #1 TE in the NFL than a rookie to be the #7 or #8 QB in the NFL.
What Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix did is more impressive. Both took over teams with losing records and lead them to the playoffs. Both had over 30 total TD. These teams don’t make the playoffs without drafting these QB.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:16 pm to diddlydawg7
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But like I said, if you compare Daniels season to other top rookies it doesn’t necessarily stand out
How many ROOKIE QB's completely flipped the won/lost record of their team. Ask any Raiders fan and they will gladly take Daniels over Bowers if the opportunity was there.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:19 pm to diddlydawg7
I'm a huge fan of both. Either deserves the award this season. You can look at Bowers' numbers and where he stands historically and it validates his choice. You can look at Daniels numbers along with the fact that Washington is finally back to being a serious team. The Raiders still suck. Legitimate arguments for both men.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:19 pm to diddlydawg7
1. Daniels
2. Bowers
3. Nix
2. Bowers
3. Nix
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:24 pm to TTsTowel
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. Who else was the QB going to throw to? The Raiders sucked without him and with him.
It’s funny that you say that because the general consensus is that playing for the Raiders hurt him, considering he had 3 different QBs this year and they all sucked arse.
He put up a lot of yards this year but he would’ve put up even more if the Raiders didn’t go 3 and out all the time.
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What Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix did is more impressive.
Them why has nobody replicated Bowers’ season when plenty have replicated Daniels and Nix?
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Both had over 30 total TD
Which once again, is impressive, but is hardly historical or special
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These teams don’t make the playoffs without drafting these QB.
Washington also got a new head coach and their defense went from dead last in the NFL last year to Top 10 this year. They have good pieces on offense and a great OL. It’s not like Daniels carried them
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:26 pm to TeamLSU
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How many ROOKIE QB's completely flipped the won/lost record of their team
Literally CJ Stroud last year and Bo Nix this year.
Also see my comment above on Washington’s defense drastically improving
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Ask any Raiders fan and they will gladly take Daniels over Bowers if the opportunity was there.
Sure, but the award isn’t for the most valuable rookie. This isn’t hard to understand.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:28 pm to diddlydawg7
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but the award isn’t for the most valuable rookie.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:51 pm to diddlydawg7
TEs were down this season, so I don't know how impressive it is that he's the best TE in the league. I like Bowers though. I wanted the Saints to draft him. I drafted him in all my fantasy leagues. I hope he continues to succeed.
Prior to today Daniels had 12 touchdown passes in the fourth quarter and overtime, the most by a rookie in NFL history Daniels has a bunch of crazy rookie stats as well and this is at the QB position.
I'm sorry, but what Daniels is doing for a team bad enough to have the 2nd pick is still more impressive than a bunch of receptions. At least to me it is.
We shall see.
I hope he continues to succeed. Prior to today Daniels had 12 touchdown passes in the fourth quarter and overtime, the most by a rookie in NFL history Daniels has a bunch of crazy rookie stats as well and this is at the QB position.
I'm sorry, but what Daniels is doing for a team bad enough to have the 2nd pick is still more impressive than a bunch of receptions. At least to me it is.
We shall see.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:57 pm to St Augustine
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You guys really need to develop your own message board
Lot of anger about lsu fans liking their former players today.
It's truly tiresome. I can't stand the MSB at times, because it's like one collective circle jerk to hate on LSU fans who like LSU players doing well.
It doesn't bother me one bit to see non-LSU players praised around here. I think Tua is an awesome QB. I think Bowers is already the best TE in the league. I still think Burrow is a top 5 QB. I am a huge fan of Baker Mayfield. Have no issue with any of this stuff.
It pleases me to see non LSU people outside of TD praise some of these players, because nobody is calling them homers. Former LSU players can be great in the NFL and it's fine to praise them.
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