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re: HBO Boxing: Golovkin-Monroe and Chocolatito's debut tonight

Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:51 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:51 am to
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though to be fair Monroe isn't going to knock anyone out


Yeah, GGG was walking through his best shots.
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:59 am to
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Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:18 am to
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There's not a bigger Pac fan alive but there's no way in hell his power comes close to GGG. What made Manny so formidable was his combination of speed and power. Oh, and the PBF lovers out there; GGG already threw it out there that he'd love to fight Floyd at 154. Crickets from the Money camp. Oh, and kudos to Chocolatito. That was an entertaining fight to watch and will definitely be keeping up with him.


Bigger Pac fan checking in, and I agree.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:18 am to
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GGG vs Cotto should be a really good fight. Power vs Power.

Dude, do you really want to see Cotto's head land in someone's lap at ringside?

Cotto isn't going anywhere near GGG!!!!! The Canelo fight is a possibility but I just can't see De La Hoya going for that right now.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:18 am to
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Pac doesn't even have more power than Maidana.
ok
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:20 am to
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Cotto isn't going anywhere near GGG!!!!! The Canelo fight is a possibility but I just can't see De La Hoya going for that right now.
The money would have to be right. No way La Hoya lets his cash cow go in that fight without major money.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:21 am to
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The money would have to be right. No way La Hoya lets his cash cow go in that fight without major money.

Yep...and I'm sure they'd make GGG drain himself down to a catchweight like 155/156. They'd try to weaken him.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:22 am to
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I just watched all of golovkin knock outs and half of those were dives or ref stopping fights way to early. Anyone who thinks he could hang with Mayweather is truly a fricking idiot. Pacman has way better speed and power than him.

He is not the next big face of boxing.
Know how I know you don't watch boxing?
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
Cotto vs GGG is gonna happen.

HBO wants that fight and HBO is Dela Hoya' s real cash cow.

And it won't be at a catch weight because it will be a title fight.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 2:48 pm to
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And it won't be at a catch weight because it will be a title fight.

Cotto fought Martinez for the title at a catch weight.

Cotto is defending that same belt against Geale at a catch weight.


Pacquiao fought for two titles at catch weights (Cotto, Margarito).
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 3:07 pm to
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That's just one reason why the UFC is taking over boxing.



It's taken over so much that you can now only watch boxing on CBS, NBC, NBC Sports, Fox Sports Net, Fox Sports 1, ESPN 2, CBS Sports Net, HBO, Showtime, Spike, TruTV, BET, UniMas, Azteca, beIN, and more.
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Cotto fought Martinez for the title at a catch weight.

Cotto is defending that same belt against Geale at a catch weight.


Pacquiao fought for two titles at catch weights (Cotto, Margarito).



Maybe so...but that fight is gonna happen.

HBO is all in on GGG and Kovalev. With the Kovalev/Stevenson being out the window...this will be HBO's big fight late in the year.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 3:45 pm to
My $ is on Cotto-Canelo in the fall. HBO wasn't gonna pick up Cotto's fight with Geale without a commitment to fight Canelo after.

That's a really good fight.

But neither of them are fighting GGG right now. Cotto will never do it and Canelo will a) wait til GGG gets older or b) force him to drain down to 154-155.


HBO needs to focus on making Kovalev-Ward happen. I'm not getting my hopes up, though, because Ward is the sports #1 drama queen.
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Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 4:30 pm to
Is Freddie still training Cotto? He seemed to be a bit of a different fighter with him in the corner.


Plus, GGG says no Canelo/Cotto without step aside deal. He's supposed to be the mandatory for the Cotto/Geale winner.

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Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 5:44 pm to
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Plus, GGG says no Canelo/Cotto without step aside deal. He's supposed to be the mandatory for the Cotto/Geale winner.

Cotto will drop the belt if he's forced to defend his belt against GGG.

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Is Freddie still training Cotto? He seemed to be a bit of a different fighter with him in the corner.

Yeah Freddie is still with him but let's remember the two fights he trained Cotto for were against two very shot fighters: Delvin Rodriguez and Sergio Martinez. It's hard to say where Cotto is right now as a boxer. He's definitely brought back the left hook to the body, though.
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Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 5:54 pm to
Martinez seemed to go from 100mph to 0 overnight
Posted by Goose
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:06 pm to
As far as GGG fighting Mayweather...never happen.

As far as weather Money would win...Castillo weighed 147 in the ring and took Money's legs with a sustained barrage of body shots. Money still outboxed him (especially in II).

Money would out box GGG, but GGG could take his legs and may be able to knock him out with his unreal power (Castillo didnt have great power and probably should have won I)
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:09 pm to
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HBO needs to focus on making Kovalev-Ward happen. I'm not getting my hopes up, though, because Ward is the sports #1 drama queen.
You think we'll see GGG move up to fight Kovalev?
Posted by smash williams
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:31 pm to
Kovalev fights at 175(Light Heavy Weight).
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:52 pm to
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Oh, and the PBF lovers out there; GGG already threw it out there that he'd love to fight Floyd at 154. Crickets from the Money camp.


There's crickets because it's a ridiculous idea.

GGG is going to rehydrate up to 165+ the night of the fight. There's a reason why there are weight classes. I don't see GGG clamoring for an Andre Ward or Kovalev fight.

There are scrubs in the higher weight classes that could beat down Floyd. GGG would beat him and it would mean little in regards to their relative level of skill. One is the bigger guy in his prime and the other is the smaller guy nearing retirement.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 8:56 pm
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