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re: Has there ever been an NBA player teetering on greatness/irrelevancy as much as Hardwn?

Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:46 am to
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Seriously wtf is with all the cherry picking? If he had a good game you wouldn't need to quantify anything about it.

He has to cherry pick because harden simply is not good enough for him to be able to make a logically sound argument to support him.

Otherwise he ends up having to say stupid shite like mcgrady > harden because of playoff bpm.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:49 am to
There is quite a few websites that filter out the non competitive portion of the game as you can toss them because the game was decided.. Cleaning the glass being the main one. Once the in-game win probability reaches 99% those # are not included.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16468 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:59 am to
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You didn’t watch did you. I didn’t either
which is why no one takes you seriously. You speak as some authority on a game you didn't even watch
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:01 am to
Don’t have to watch to repost a tweet bubba.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5362 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:02 am to
I watched the game. Maxey and Green carried the Sixers. Harden was the 4th best guy last night. 4/11 and 1/7 with 7 turnovers the best? That dog don’t hunt bubba.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16468 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:05 am to
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Don’t have to watch to repost a tweet bubba.
correct. Any idiot can repost a tweet.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:08 am to
Didn’t need to watch. Philly outscored Miami thru the first two games when Jordan was off the court. Let’s be honest if embiid plays the first two games it is a good chance PHI Is going for a sweep tomorrow.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108526 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:11 am to
Harden is a very good basketball player. But he will be completely forgotten 10 years after he retires. He won’t be a player that lives on
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:16 am to



Just seen this. Based on the quality of shots created for teammates in game 2, Philly wins that game 9 times outta 10. This is the kinda tracking data that is available now that shows true impact and does a good job of showing that they got wide open looks all night but had a really poor night on those open looks
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216139 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:53 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:00 am to
this is a great graphic for guy like you who look at a box score and say whatever it is you say. he sliced them up all nite and generated wide open look after look
For his teammates. Can lead a horse to water they say..
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216139 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:02 am to
I actually watched the game… you can have it up all the stupids stats and metrics you want to, but Maxey has far outplayed harden in these playoffs and it’s not really close. Fact!!!!!
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:04 am to
Your eye test is broken
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25902 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:48 am to
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they got wide open looks all night but had a really poor night on those open looks


Well we definitely know one player, Jim Harden, just simply can't shoot and doesn't want to anymore, so again, the metric is flawed. Jim could be left alone in a gym right now and maybe hit 35% from 3. He just doesn't have the legs anymore.


Thankfully embiid being back with his elite defense got them the w, but the heat aren't gonna shoot 35% from the field again lol
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:53 am to
The metric is based on fg% for the year for each shot. Based on the player who took the shots season long shooting averages taking into consideration location and defense ( open, wide open, etc.). so if you draw the double team and kick to green wide open in the corner and he shots 50% on that shot for the year, that’s included here. It doesn’t punish harden for green missing a Shot he makes At a high clip. On the flip side the heat made tons of shots they usually miss.


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Thankfully embiid being back with his elite defense got them the w, but the heat aren't gonna shoot 35% from the field again lol


Yea who woulda thought a team would be much better on defense going from Jordan to Embiid.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25902 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:55 am to
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The metric is based on fg% for the year for each shot.


So it's even more flawed then.

Playoff shots/=/reg season shots.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:28 pm to
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CP is beating up on a 4 seed and a 9 seed. Harden prob never lost to a 4 seed in his career. He lost to bucks (champs). Lakers (champs).warriors (dynasty) in the last 5 years. When he plays a lower seed it’s always a win.


Literally no clue what this is supposed to rebut
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Literally no clue what this is supposed to rebut


Boom has admitted he doesn’t watch, so at this point I just want to hear his takes on the Rockets. You know, his team.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46667 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Boom has admitted he doesn’t watch, so at this point I just want to hear his takes on the Rockets. You know, his team.

is he still even a rockets fan? Seems like I remember him calling for the rox to get relocated.

I guess he just follows harden around now...pretty lame since we all had to hear about “clutch city” which happened when Jim was a toddler
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25902 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 1:18 pm to
Lol boom predicted rox playoffs this year too.
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