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re: Happy 52nd Birthday Michael Jordan

Posted on 2/17/15 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 6:53 pm to
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Bron > MJ



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Nonetheless


this same inbred idiot also thinks Sandy Hook was a conspiracy.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38158 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 6:54 pm to
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Kobe > Jordan

Jordan would have been a nobody if he had to play in Kobe's NBA


Is there a cliff you people can promptly jump off of? The world would seriously be a better place. Seriously, your mom will thank you.
Posted by Nonetheless
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 6:56 pm to
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this same inbred idiot also thinks Sandy Hook was a conspiracy.



I never said that.

I said i don't like people that dismiss an idea without even considering its veracity or looking into the possibility of it being true - like you.

But nice try bro
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 6:57 pm
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13686 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:13 pm to
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Jordan dominated the game during what was the golden era of the league
golden how? by the time MJ broke through and won titles, bird's back was shot, the bad boy pistons were old, magic had aids, shaq was a pup, he never faced olajuwon in the finals, stockton and malone were a nice tandem, but were limited, 6'5 charles barkley was a dominating PF who admitted he didnt play enough defense


MJ had a top 5 player in the league and MVP candidate on his team in pippen. the best rebounder, rodman. the best euro, kukoc. the best shooter, kerr. the best coach, arguably of all time, phil jackson. seems MJ's team was stacked and everyone else barely stood a chance.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56280 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:23 pm to
To be fair, MJ beat Magic head to head in the Finals during one of Magic's better seasons. And that was after the Bulls handled the two-time defending champ Pistons, who the Bulls also nearly beat the previous year.

And the last time the Eastern Conference was worth a shite was during the '90s.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:34 pm to
Yet none of those guys were even in the same league as Jordan
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13686 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:43 pm to
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Yet none of those guys were even in the same league as Jordan
which guys?
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:09 pm to
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bird's back was shot, the bad boy pistons were old, magic had aids, shaq was a pup, he never faced olajuwon in the finals, stockton and malone were a nice tandem, but were limited, 6'5 charles barkley was a dominating PF who admitted he didnt play enough defense


The reason why Jordan never faced Olajuwon in the finals was because the Western Conference was absolutely stacked throughout the 90's. People talk a lot about Utah and Houston, but Portland, Seattle, and Phoenix were each loaded from 1990 to about 1995.

Look at Portland's roster, for instance.
Guards: Terry Porter, Clyde Drexler, and Danny Ainge Forwards/Center: Jerome Kersey, Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson, and Kevin Duckworth

Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:17 pm to
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The reason why Jordan never faced Olajuwon in the finals was because the Western Conference was absolutely stacked throughout the 90's. People talk a lot about Utah and Houston, but Portland, Seattle, and Phoenix were each loaded from 1990 to about 1995.
as a sporting fan, i wish the rockets would have played the bulls in the finals one year, especially their first time when they had vernon maxwell. but alas, the only years they won the west was when jordan was on sabbatical in the white sox farm system
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52274 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:24 pm to
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which guys? 


Every single player in the nba
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13686 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:38 pm to
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Jordan dominated the game during what was the golden era of the league
golden how? by the time MJ broke through and won titles, bird's back was shot, the bad boy pistons were old, magic had aids, shaq was a pup, he never faced olajuwon in the finals, stockton and malone were a nice tandem, but were limited, 6'5 charles barkley was a dominating PF who admitted he didnt play enough defense
Yet none of those guys were even in the same league as Jordan
which guys?
Every single player in the nba
youre making my point. my original retort was to someone who implied the 90s the golden age of the NBA from a talent standpoint. my assessment is there wasnt alot of opposition, helping jordan appear so dominant. so while people seem to nostalgize that era as some type of "golden era", i contend its not due to the talent, but bc the most popular player at the time was running roughshod through the league.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:02 pm to
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To be fair, MJ beat Magic head to head in the Finals during one of Magic's better seasons


Ummm...that was a laker team with no Kareem (retired) and no worthy (injured) where Pippen did most of the guarding of Magic.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:05 pm to
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as a sporting fan, i wish the rockets would have played the bulls in the finals one year, especially their first time when they had vernon maxwell. but alas, the only years they won the west was when jordan was on sabbatical in the white sox farm system


Jordan played the final 3 months of the Bulls season in 1995. If the Bulls didn't play the rockets in the finals that year, then blame him.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:06 pm to
GOAT and it's not even close at this point
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:14 pm to


Bird looks like a legit 7' in that pic.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56280 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:16 pm to
Ummm... Worthy played 4 games and averaged 20 per. Scott played 4 as well. And Vlade performed better than 41-yr-old Kareem did three years prior when the Lakers last won it.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38158 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Jordan played the final 3 months of the Bulls season in 1995. If the Bulls didn't play the rockets in the finals that year, then blame him.



You're right, Jordan sucked, Will Perdue carried that Bulls dynasty
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:22 pm to
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Ummm... Worthy played 4 games and averaged 20 per. Scott played 4 as well. And Vlade performed better than 41-yr-old Kareem did three years prior when the Lakers last won it.


Worthy was still injured, hence why he ended up playing only 4 games. Kareem was not there regardless. Your first post seemed to skirt all that and implied Jordan beat the real showtime lakers (ie the true Golden age) when he did not.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 10:23 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56280 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:27 pm to
He merely beat a team that won 58 games and had two future HOFers at the end of their primes. That team was good enough to steal game 1 in Chicago.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:31 pm to
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He merely beat a team that won 58 games and had two future HOFers at the end of their primes. That team was good enough to steal game 1 in Chicago.


Really? What were Pippen (his HoF teammate), Grant (All star), and Amstrong (All star) doing that whole time while Jordan single handedly beat the old time Lakers?
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 10:32 pm
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