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Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:13 pm to Jamohn
The Philadelphia Eagles (TO era) had a rookie safety/kick returner JR Reed who blew out his leg jumping a fence running from the Police back home in Florida, not sure if he ever suited up again
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:53 pm to OBUDan
Bobby Jones has to be mentioned quit at 28 to become a full time attorney. He has to be top 3.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:10 pm to Jamohn
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Ali -- He was still improving in 1967. When he came back in 1971 he had lost speed that he was never able to regain
If anything this probable worked out well for Ali as far as legacy goes. Think about it the top heavyweights in the 3 years Ali couldn't fight were Jimmy Ellis, Joe Frazier, Jerry Quary and Oscar Bonavena 4 guys he would beat later on anyway. Ali also probable fights Frazier earlier in his career and beats him handedly and there is no trilogy.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:13 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Ali also probable fights Frazier earlier in his career and beats him handedly and there is no trilogy.
Not relevant. Frazier wasn't ready to Fight ALI till the 1st one. BUT I agree IF they had fought in 1967 ALI would have crushed him.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:18 pm to OBUDan
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Mickey Mantle
How he accomplished what he did with the worst knees in the history of the world is somewhat remarkable.
Plus he was way hungover every game. He missed over 1,000 games due to injuries. Project his per game stats and there would be no question who would the GOAT in baseball. He was a freak athelete.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:18 pm to dukke v
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Not relevant. Frazier wasn't ready to Fight ALI till the 1st one. BUT I agree IF they had fought in 1967 ALI would have crushed him.
They would of fought in 69 or 70 and Ali would of beaten him handedly and there would of been no trilogy
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:19 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
A few soccer players come to mind
Paul Gascoine
Maradona
Ronaldo (fat)
Michael Owen
George Best
Paul Gascoine
Maradona
Ronaldo (fat)
Michael Owen
George Best
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:22 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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They would of fought in 69 or 70 and Ali would of beaten him handedly and there would of been no trilogy
I disagree. In 69 or 70 Frazier could have still handle himself. BUT. ALI brought it on himself. Lets NOT forget WHY he didn't have those times to box. Think about it.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:23 pm to dukke v
quote:Standing up for his beliefs?
Lets NOT forget WHY he didn't have those times to box. Think about it.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:24 pm to glassman
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Plus he was way hungover every game. He missed over 1,000 games due to injuries
I will NOT use STUPID IN THIS THREAD. But yes most guys had a few beers the night before. HE overdid it. YES he missed a ton of games and IF he would have taken better care of himself, he may NOT have had ALL those injuries.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:25 pm to Mephistopheles
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A few soccer players come to mind
I would toss Michael Laudrup in there. Sometimes, he looked as brilliant as anyone, but other times, it almost seemed like he did not give 100%. Not he truly qualifies for this list, but I think he may be worth mentioning.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:26 pm to Jamohn
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Lets NOT forget WHY he didn't have those times to box. Think about it.
Standing up for his beliefs?
NO prob with it. BUT don't make it an excuse for him.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:39 pm to TigerintheNO
My only argument against Feller was that he got started a lot earlier than most. Damn he was awesome.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:42 pm to dukke v
Pj when can we sit down over some beers and I can teach you a little history about baseball and football
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:44 pm to OBUDan
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My only argument against Feller was that he got started a lot earlier than most. Damn he was awesome.
And ALL this HYPE over Strasberg??? I just don't get it.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 8:07 pm to dukke v
Feller struck out 17 when he was 17. 
Posted on 4/4/12 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
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Pj when can we sit down over some beers and I can teach you a little history about baseball and football
Not sure. BUT I ASSURE you . It would be a day that you would NEVER forget. I have SOOO much more knowledge than people on here have NO CLUE ABOUT.
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