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re: Gatorade Duels at Daytona - Race #2 GREEN FLAG

Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:49 pm to
I bet when the second car gets in line he says "slingshot....engaged....it's shake and bake time!!"
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:49 pm to
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These rules are just dumb and don't make sense
I agree with the rule for any other race, but it does make it odd for the Daytona 500 when you have pre-race races that determine starting order. What I don't like is that the rule only applies to this race if you finish in the top 2 in normal qualifying.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6471 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:50 pm to
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The worst part about it is Martin Truex was in the wreck with him yesterday and doesn't have to go to the back of the 500. He's using a backup car, if he wins Duel #2, he'll start 3rd Sunday.



Again, NASCAR has some asinine rules. I'm a casual fan, so understanding how they make some of their decisions is just beyond my knowledge.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:51 pm to
NASCAR marches to the beat of their own drum for sure
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6471 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:52 pm to
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I agree with the rule for any other race


Me too.
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it does make it odd for the Daytona 500 when you have pre-race races that determine starting order


Why even qualify for the Daytona 500, if it's qualifying for the duels?
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What I don't like is that the rule only applies to this race if you finish in the top 2 in normal qualifying.


Huh?
Posted by steelreign
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:55 pm to
The qualifying session for the Daytona 500 only sets the first row.

Then they take the odd # qualifiers and race them in Duel #1 and the even # qualifiers and race them in Duel #2. The Duel #1 results determine the inside starting grid (pos 3-43) and the Duel #2 determines the outside starting grid (pos 4-42)
This post was edited on 2/17/11 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:57 pm to
C'mooooon BLANEY
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 1:59 pm to
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Huh?
Truex is in a backup car, but didn't have to go to the rear of the field. Since Dale Jr. finished in the top 2 in normal qualifying, which only determines the 2 front row starters, he had to go to the rear. Truex is qualifying through the Duels so he's exempt from this rule.

Hence, the backup car rule only applies if you qualify in the top 2 in normal qualifying.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6471 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:02 pm to
So, anyone who wrecks their car in practice before the duels, that didn't qualify for front row, can still possibly start 3rd. Yet the 1st and 2nd qualifiers don't, in Jr.'s case. This is just so dumb. He was punished harsher than Truex because he happened to qualify for the front row.
This post was edited on 2/17/11 at 2:04 pm
Posted by steelreign
Deridder
Member since Jan 2009
11086 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:02 pm to
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This is just so dumb.


Yep
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:03 pm to
Yup. Thankfully the only time this comes into play is the Daytona 500.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6471 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:04 pm to
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Yup. Thankfully the only time this comes into play is the Daytona 500.



It's the only time this could ever come into play. And those NASCAR idiots probably won't address it, ever.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:08 pm to
The only good thing is that if you're not starting up front at Daytona, it's better to start at the rear. IMO, after the field starts to get spread out, he'll begin to make his move through the field.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37594 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:14 pm to
Can someone explain this race and the meaning to me.

I just started really following NASCAR and am watching but don't really know what I'm watching.

Thanks.


P.S. Talk to me like I'm a kindergartener on the subject.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:17 pm to
Qualifying sets up the order of the duels

The duels set up where you start in the 500
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37594 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:18 pm to
How many races are there this afternoon?

And is Dale the only driver that doesn't matter?

Also, why have the qualifying and "polls" if this is the determining factor?

Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for answering.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:19 pm to
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The duels set up where you start in the 500
Duel #1 determines inside row order.
Duel #2 determines outside row order.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:20 pm to
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Also, why have the qualifying and "polls" if this is the determining factor?

Qualifying determine the order for all the other races. Just for the Daytona 500, normal qualifying only determine the front row starter (both inside and outside).

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And is Dale the only driver that doesn't matter?
Yes, but only because he's not able to race in the car he qualified in. Wrecked it in practice after qualifying.
This post was edited on 2/17/11 at 2:22 pm
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37594 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:21 pm to
Sweet! Thanks. Got it now. (more than I did anyway)

Posted by steelreign
Deridder
Member since Jan 2009
11086 posts
Posted on 2/17/11 at 2:38 pm to
So Kurt Busch just won the Pole for the 500.

Atleast I got Harvick to root for starting in 5th.

I really hope this isn't a sign of the same old crap from Jr. He gets a decent run, makes it up to the top quarter of the field, then fades off for a mid pack finish. He's done that way to much in the past few years. Get to 5th or 6th, then fade back to finish somewhere between 20th and 25th.
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