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re: Full statement from NC State AD

Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:34 am to
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31435 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:34 am to
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How many did this as a necessity and how many did it as a precaution? Most didn’t have to.


I can't speak for outside of new orleans, but in the new orleans metro area it was 100% necessity. Every hospital went beyond their capacity, doing things that we've never had to do before.

OMC-Jeff highway had to open new ICUs and convert non-ICU areas into ICUs. UMCNO had to open a new ICU to accommodate their ICU patients as well. Ochsner Kenner was in the process of building a new ICU and got an expedited approval to usue that along with their old one. Touro had to do some renovations to expand. Baptist conerted the PACU and actually had patients in the hallway.

Patients who would normally be in the ICU on BiPAP or HFNC due to acuity were on med/surg wards across the board. Ask most ED doctors/residents who work around here and they'll tell you they sent home patients they would 99% of the time have asked someone to admit otherwise.

If that's not necessary, than I don't know what is.

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So just like your 99.99% effective natural immune system you already have. fricking sheep


weak argument. In the past 1.5 years, I've seen 30-40 year olds die from COVID that 100% wouldn't have died otherwise.

I bet you feel the same way about the flu right? NBD. Right before COVID last year, we had a guy who died from the flu. healthy 34 year old guy who came from out of town for work on a rig. his wife and 2 year old son came down here from up north to say goodbye to him.

like i said --- studies have already proven things like the flu shot 100% reduces morbidity/mortality, but it does not 100% prevent you from getting the flu. I'll take my odds with getting a vaccine

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You said “has” where you should have said “chooses”. Hospitals choosing to turn away cancer patients from their needed treatments because they were worried about a virus with a 99+% survival rate was 100% a choice they made, and an incredibly stupid one at that.


See, the issue with elective surgeries is that when they go bad...they go to the ICU. Or if its a major one, they go to the ICU. The fact is: at that time, ICU beds in the NOLA metro area were definitely a finite resource.

Chemotherapy is a different argument, most of the time they tend to do well, most are outpatient therapy/infusions.

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That isn’t overrun. That is making concessions for the situation.



see above.

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Overrun is people dying in the hallways.



Overrun is having to send people you otherwise would admit, home.

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NO built an entire new hospital and didn’t even need to use it beyond a few.



Which new hospital? because I can 100% tell you everyone thought the convention center was indeed useless because of the requirements for you to get a patient there.

they had to:
1. be on such low oxygen supplementation that you were essentially stable
2. they had to be able to perform their ADLs without assistance

and a few other things. So essentially, you could go there if you were needing a little bit more time.

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There were places that were close, but no hospitals were overrun.



once again, see above.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38060 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:00 am to
"Vaccination for our students is a personal decision."

Good man. frick the NCAA and police state attitudes.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38060 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:04 am to
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Does the vaccine prevent COVID infection? If so, how does one test positive after being vaccinated?


Because vaccines give you a small dose of a virus?
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 3:05 am
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
37058 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:00 am to
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I hope all this BS is gone by next year. None of these decisions are being made by logic.


This world will never be normal again…
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9802 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:44 am to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24559 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:59 am to
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But please, continue making shite up to justify your myths about hospitals being overrun.


He doesn't have to make anything up. Hospitals were overrun. Unless all the nurses and doctors in the country decided to lie all together.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38275 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:06 am to
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He doesn't have to make anything up. Hospitals were overrun. Unless all the nurses and doctors in the country decided to lie all together.


That’s because hospitals weren’t build, or sized, to be at max capacity, dumb arse. You make it seem like they are opening tents in the parking lot and setting up beds in the kitchen
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24559 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:09 am to
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You make it seem like they are opening tents in the parking lot and setting up beds in the kitchen


quote:

The main lobby is a white tent in the visitors parking lot, which triples at times as a venue for community prayer vigils.


Actually they were dumbass
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38275 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:10 am to
Wow that sarcasm really went over your head

It’s almost as if the constant news footage showing exactly what I sarcastically said didn’t happen, wasn’t rammed through our skulls
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24559 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:13 am to
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Wow that shitty sarcasm really went over your head


Yep. Totally did. My bad
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16496 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:23 am to
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This world will never be normal again…



Normal is relative.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:26 am to
He just toes the party line. Cannot be discussed publicly. ??? This is BS
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104215 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:38 am to
It still makes me weep how poor leaders and people in general understand how vaccines work

No vaccines, none, can prevent a positive test. For a vaccine to prevent a positive test. For this to happen, the vaccine would have to be a force field that stops virus particles from entering your body

The polio vaccine can’t prevent a positive test. The chickenpox vaccine can’t prevent a positive test. Mumps, measles etc.

That’s why for the history of mankind we haven’t tested non sick people, because it makes no logical sense. A positive test on someone not sick is worthless
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6941 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 8:47 am to
Who said they didnt?

Who said the positive test are really positive. Maybe its was fauchi wearing a vandy jersey in the lab.????

The possible side effects in the vaccine outweigh the protection the vaccine gives these kids.
Tgese players are in peak physical shape run and exercise. Covid is putting these kids on a ventilator.

This is a show


Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6692 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 9:00 am to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
50118 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:00 am to
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She should have volunteered to work in one of Ochsners ICUs. I promise you her perception would have been completely different.


Yeah, those BR area hospitals were so overrun no patients were sent to the Convention Center hospital we paid millions for
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
50118 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:02 am to
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Wonder how they got the kids home since baseball doesn’t usually charter jets


Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45444 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:06 am to
"COVID reared its ugly head"

Oh frick off, pussy. What a weak arse response
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:19 am to
This is greatness. Thanks.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86713 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:23 am to
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He didn’t go far enough, guy is a pussy


Big time. What a weak response
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