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re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"
Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:38 am to prplhze2000
Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:38 am to prplhze2000
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Speedy, you've been a cop long enough to know there were probably boosters or a ring of boosters involved.
That's my guess as well. What we got in the Sandusky trial is merely the tip of the fricking iceberg. I'm guessing Sandusky's Second Mile program was more of a child sex ring operation with charity as a front. I bet prominent and powerful fricked up men used it to hook up with children. I'm thinking the DA who disappeared a few years ago discovered it and that's why he was killed, as well as his hard drive wiped out and destroyed flawlessly .
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Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:47 am to Damn Good Dawg
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Vincenzo Lizza, Courtney Lennartz, Scott Patterson, Kinjal Mathur, William Martin, William Doncsecz, Julianne Robbins, Ben Pugh, Kristin Carpenter, Tyler Doppelheuer, Maggie Quinn, TJ Bard , Amelia Ahnert, Jennifer Wolf, Patrick Kelly, Stephanie Zub, Kevin Horne, Ryan Brown, Mike McHugh, Robert Nellis, Steve Patrick, Matthew Shanes, Jessica Cunning, Sean Meadows, Cathy L. Rogers, Paul Ferrera, Kristie Winiarski, Ben Clark, Paige Blawas, Eric Quackenbush, Ernst Ntiamoah, Chandra Ulinfun
Should we send pizzas to all these people, with Pedobear embedded in pepperonis?
Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:53 am to Damn Good Dawg
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that being said none of you pricks really have any credibility in the matter, especially when you think the whole school should burn because it's leadership was so fricking crooked.
If this fricking shite happened at Ole Miss, I'd take a fricking flamethrower to the Grove and burn it down my fricking self, and then salt every acre to make sure nothing grows back again.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:12 am to Damn Good Dawg
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if anyone needs football to help forget what their school's leaders have just done it is the PSU fans
That's like saying an alcoholic needs more booze to help him cope with killing someone while drinking and driving. No, Penn State needs to wake the frick up and realize that they are worshiping a form of glorified tag. Most fanbases can do this fairly responsibly, but at Penn State this led to covering a pedophiles tracks as well as literally worshipping his enabler. Trust me, those fans need to stop watching football for a while. Very few of them have come to terms that the dozens of kids being molested is a bigger tragedy than the person who allowed him to do these acts dying. Until they come to fathom this and realize that JoePa wasn't all he was cracked up to be, they should have the death penalty.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:20 am to bobbyray21
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And you clearly don't understand how jurisdiction works.
The jurisdiction issue has been covered already. This most certainly is an NCAA issue. When you have a football head coach, assistant coach, trainers, rapes occurring at football facilities, and then high up university officials conspiring to cover it all up, I'm not sure there is a more obvious case of lack of institutional control.
The institution failed to control, and actually enabled, a child rapist. Take all your long ramblings and blow them out your arse. You're wrong.
ETA: And yes, criminal and civil sanctions need to occur as well. But that is not a reason for the NCAA to do nothing.
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 6:24 am
Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:26 am to Damn Good Dawg
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you don't think that football is a huge income getter for the university? how can the school pay off these law suits when they are losing students and have no football profits?
Even if you say otherwise, it's clear you just don't get it. You're too much in bed with PSU fans to understand what we're talking about. This is bigger than football and the mindset you are in very much led to this situation. It wouldn't shock me if JoePa made similar points to yourself. Penn State has to get out of this mentality for me to even remotely consider not giving them the death penalty. For them the bigger tragedy is the loss of the football program, not the innocent youth's lives. Until the fanbase at large can understand this (which you can't honestly, but I'll let it slide since you're usually a good poster just too close to PSU to understand anyone outside of PSU's view), then they need the death penalty.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:45 am to ProjectP2294
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Because of those things, you aren't really punishing the wrong people. Sure some of the current athletes will have to find a new place to play if they want to continue their careers, but frick everyone else. Just because they weren't implicit in the cover up, doesn't mean they didn't enable the forces that allowed it to happen.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Give the senior, junior, and sophomore players breaks by letting them play in their first year outside of Penn State. frick the incoming freshmen though and especially frick the fans, since their mentality and continual excuses are what caused the vast scope of this problem anyway. They need to come back to earth and realize they worship overgrown boys who play violent tag for a living.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:49 am to OMLandshark
I think the difference of opinion is over whether or not you punish an institution as well as the people. We all agree that Sandusky and the others need to be brought to justice and all those who took part in the coverup and who did not report the abuse need to be brought to justice. Those individuals must be brought to justice.
But, do you punish an institution? I mean if you give the football program the death penalty for five years and do all the draconian things others have wanted you are punishing the Chemistry Department as well and the student life department as well.
Did the Chemistry Department have anything to do with this? Did the Residence Halls have anything to do with this? I know people who went to Penn State who don't care about football and truly care about the academics. Why in the hell should they have to be punished directly or indirectly? They had nothing to do with this. Why sully huge segments of the University when the people who did these crimes must be punished. Not everyone and everything at Penn State worshipped football.
This was not an institutional thing. This is about people who committed horrible crimes who must be brought to justice.
Also I think some of you need to realize that something like this can happen anywhere. In all honesty do you actually believe that at places like Alabama and Michigan there is no culture of football like what you saw at Penn State?
But, do you punish an institution? I mean if you give the football program the death penalty for five years and do all the draconian things others have wanted you are punishing the Chemistry Department as well and the student life department as well.
Did the Chemistry Department have anything to do with this? Did the Residence Halls have anything to do with this? I know people who went to Penn State who don't care about football and truly care about the academics. Why in the hell should they have to be punished directly or indirectly? They had nothing to do with this. Why sully huge segments of the University when the people who did these crimes must be punished. Not everyone and everything at Penn State worshipped football.
This was not an institutional thing. This is about people who committed horrible crimes who must be brought to justice.
Also I think some of you need to realize that something like this can happen anywhere. In all honesty do you actually believe that at places like Alabama and Michigan there is no culture of football like what you saw at Penn State?
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:53 am to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
I agree with every one of your statements. They need to take football away from Penn St for awhile or else they will brush all this happening under the rug, and its not something anyone should easily forget.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:00 am to Ralph_Wiggum
This is war against Penn State and its disgusting regime and mindset they've created around their program. Sure there will be some casualties, many undeserved, but we must show them that this sick criminal activity and mindset will not be tolerated. It's very clear to me that the majority of Penn State fans do not know how serious this is and are only feeling bad for themselves and their program, not for the boys at large. Seriously, they'll defend the kids who were fricked for about 20 seconds but then go on a 15 minute rant on how good of a man JoePa was. Until they can fathom that they're worshipping glorrified tag that means almost nothing in the long run compared to innocent boy's lives, their fanbase 100% deserves the death penalty. Hopefully most will come to their senses, since any who have actively want it to show that they're sorry that this unholy and evil shite happened on and for the preservation of their campus.
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:01 am to tiggerthetooth
What's obvious at this point is that the NCAA is in a lose lose situation. People are going to disagree one way or the other.
Someone posted a page or two back an article about possible accreditation issues. Very interesting what could happen with that.
Someone posted a page or two back an article about possible accreditation issues. Very interesting what could happen with that.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:04 am to piggilicious
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What's obvious at this point is that the NCAA is in a lose lose situation. People are going to disagree one way or the other.
You may be right but right now I disagree. I think only Penn St. supporters would not like the death penalty for obvious reasons and because they are in blind denial and obviously the University is a cesspool that needs to be incinerated somehow.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:09 am to tiggerthetooth
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You may be right but right now I disagree. I think only Penn St. supporters would not like the death penalty for obvious reasons and because they are in blind denial and obviously the University is a cesspool that needs to be incinerated somehow.
Dude, that is a complete over generalization. The whole university is not a cesspool. Do you actually think that people in an English Class now at Penn State should be punished? Should the students taking classes there be punished if they had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes?
Should someone researching cancer at Penn State be punished? Should someone researching the civil war at Penn State be punished for the actions of a dozen or so men when the researchers have absolutely nothing to do with what happened?
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:13 am to OMLandshark
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This is war against Penn State and its disgusting regime and mindset they've created around their program.
The University is about to be paying millions upon millions in damages. I'm guessing the state of PA isn't going to be thrilled about paying for Penn State when all of that taxpayer money is going to be going away in damages. Penn State as an institution is in serious trouble. Not to mention what this does to the prestige of the school. The war on Penn State has just begun.
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Sure there will be some casualties, many undeserved, but we must show them that this sick criminal activity and mindeset will not be tolerated.
We need revenge!! frick the average person who had no idea this was going on. They should have done something about it anyway!
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It's very clear to me that the majority of Penn State fans do not know how serious this is and are only feeling bad for themselves and their program, not for the boys at large.
Link for that sweeping generalization? Look, I see what you're talking about. This is a typical reaction of people. They don't want to believe it, and it's hard to come to terms with it. This institution you grew up in love with, and the coach who was almost God. Then that entire belief structure comes crumbling down and you see just how rotten everything was to the core.
The reality just hasn't set in yet. They just don't want to believe it. Give it time, and they will deal with that truth. If Bear Bryant was found out to be raping children, the Alabama fan base would be having a similar reaction.
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Until they can fathom that they're worshipping glorrified tag that means almost nothing in the long run compared to innocent boy's lives, their fanbase 100% deserves the death penalty
What about the business owner in State College who needs the extra revenue of a football weekend to make ends meet for the year? Think about all the restaurants on the Square if Ole Miss football went away. You don't just punish fans, you punish the economy of a town.
The fans will come to reality eventually, they are just in denial. I'm just saying that you punish the people involved, not the fans who just aren't thinking about the situation in an acceptable way for the majority of people.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:18 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Your arguments are the same JoePa was probably using. I can imagine his phone conversation to the Chancellor. "Hey, if we expose our second most powerful man on campus as an active pedophile, we may lose our funding for important projects, like football, basketball, and education. See here at Penn State we need to protect our assets, like our football program and of course chemistry. Could you imagine the grants our Dean of Chemistry would lose if he found out that my second in command was fricking 8 year old boys? So to protect them, and especially our football program that puts out a lot of profits, how about we sweep this under the rig, so the innocent biology professor doesn't have to suffer."
Does this sound remotely fricking sane to you?
Does this sound remotely fricking sane to you?
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:22 am to Duke
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The fans will come to reality eventually, they are just in denial.
I agree, but I'm thinking it will take something drastic for them to see it.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:22 am to tiggerthetooth
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You may be right but right now I disagree. I think only Penn St. supporters would not like the death penalty for obvious reasons and because they are in blind denial and obviously the University is a cesspool that needs to be incinerated somehow.
For the record, i would be fine with the NCAA punishing them but I've read most of this thread and others elsewhere and there seems to be a split opinion.
I'm fine with either way I guess because the lawsuits and other potential issues will bring the pain anyway.
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:23 am to OMLandshark
The difference is that Joe Pa was saying that to cover his legacy. Joe Pa cared more about his name and legend than he cared about the victims of child rape. I used to think alot of Joe Pa, and it makes me sick and angry to see what he really was. That is unforgivable and absolutely disgusting.
It doesn't make Ralph's point any less valid though, just because that frickstick Joe Pa was using the same point to cover his arse.
They already see it, but they are trying to rationalize it away. They just need time, to realize they are rationalizing something horrible. The man they worshiped as being "the last good guy in college football" was actively covering up for a kiddie rapist who took advantage of "at risk" boys. How much more drastic does it get?
It doesn't make Ralph's point any less valid though, just because that frickstick Joe Pa was using the same point to cover his arse.
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I agree, but I'm thinking it will take something drastic for them to see it.
They already see it, but they are trying to rationalize it away. They just need time, to realize they are rationalizing something horrible. The man they worshiped as being "the last good guy in college football" was actively covering up for a kiddie rapist who took advantage of "at risk" boys. How much more drastic does it get?
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:27 am to Duke
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We need revenge!! frick the average person who had no idea this was going on. They should have done something about it anyway!
Athletic programs are punished all the time, why not in a case of the top of the AD and University covering up child rape that occurred in the damn facilities?
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Athletic programs are punished all the time, why not in a case of the top of the AD and University covering up child rape that occurred in the damn facilities?
They are punished for doing things to gain a competetive advantage. This is something the justice system needs to deal with, not the NCAA.
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