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Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:56 pm to CptBengal
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As per Emmert. It's not.
He said that?
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"Naturally, (NCAA president Mark) Emmert could disregard this fact and pursue an unchartered and unsupported course of action.
Good. The NCAA will get sued again if he tries.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:56 pm to Zamoro10
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I don't think you understand the NCAA's jurisdiction...their authority and actions are prompted by violations prohibited in their manual/laws.
So just because they didn't outline a child rape cover up law, they should in essence turn a blind eye?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:59 pm to CptBengal
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As per Emmert. It's not.
I read the article you posted. Certainly, this is heinous, but I don't think it is an NCAA issue. The leadership will be jailed [or dead], the school will pay out of its nose, and the PSU reputation is severely tarnished.
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So you're ignoring that the employer in question is one under the NCAA's jurisdiction?
LNCHBOX
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:00 pm to Chappy
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What would warrant the DP, in your mind?
Nothing warrants the DP.
It excessive and punishes many, many more people than who committed the crime.
It also has a negative effect on every school that schedules PSU as well as other schools in the Big Approximately Ten.
The better, more prudent solution, is to bring criminal charges against those individuals who were involved.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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So just because they didn't outline a child rape cover up law, they should in essence turn a blind eye?
What are you talking about? You really don't understand crime and punishment.
You can't punish something not proscribed under the NCAA's jurisdiction. Blind eye has nothing to do with it...why don't you punish PSU...or are you turning a blind eye?
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:06 pm to Sophandros
The NCAA should revoke Penn State University’s membership.
This will allow Penn State University to continue to operate and participate in all activities not sanctioned by the NCAA.
This will allow Penn State University to continue to operate and participate in all activities not sanctioned by the NCAA.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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So just because it isn't going to deter it, the program responsible for the cover up should not be punished? Are you insane?
No, but you are.
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COVER UP SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
You punish the guilty, not the innocent. There are many people at Penn State and who rely on Penn State who are not guilty and thus should not be punished.
Let the legal system, not the NCAA, mete out the punishment.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:08 pm to Zamoro10
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What are you talking about?
You really don't understand crime and punishment.
I guess my point is do they really need to make a rule outlawing child rape cover ups to punish an athletic program to punish an athletic program that participated in a child rape cover up? PSU gained a competitive advantage in covering up the rape, so the NCAA should be involved.
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.why don't you punish PSU...or are you turning a blind eye?
Are you implying that I am some sort of governing body that has authority? This statement is stupid.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:09 pm to Zamoro10
What about joepa covering up some of his teams' discipline problems? There is that woman that went to spanier saying he was overstepping the line. Was that not an NCAA infraction?
When did joepa learn he had cancer?
When did joepa learn he had cancer?
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:10 pm to Sophandros
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THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COVER UP SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
Football program profited due to the coverup, so it needs to be punished as well.
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Let the legal system, not the NCAA, mete out the punishment.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:12 pm to LNCHBOX
The Millen reaction is about to be shown again
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:12 pm to stout
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Paterno's name to be stripped off of Nike headquarters' child care building
Derp only the legal system should be handing out punishments
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:13 pm to hendersonshands
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The Millen reaction is about to be shown again
I'm starting to think he may post here.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:15 pm to Zamoro10
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You can't punish something not proscribed under the NCAA's jurisdiction.
This didn't stop the NCAA from hitting the Baylor basketball program with heavy sanctions after the murder conspiracy the involved a player & head coach.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COVER UP SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
Football program profited due to the coverup, so it needs to be punished as well.
Listen to yourself. You sound like a raving, torch carrying lunatic.
You're basically saying that an assistant coach who joined the staff in, say, 2008, should be punished for something that he had absolutely nothing to do with.
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Let the legal system, not the NCAA, mete out the punishment.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Because one has jurisdiction over this issue and the other doesn't.
If you claim to desire JUSTICE, then you'll allow the legal system to prosecute the INDIVIDUALS involved in a cover up, not the NCAA.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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I guess my point is do they really need to make a rule outlawing child rape cover ups to punish an athletic program to punish an athletic program that participated in a child rape cover up?
Uh-no...because they aren't city/state or the Federal government - (sole jurisdiction over criminal matters)...nor are they the police or FBI.
"Unless the NCAA finds evidence of broken bylaws, it needs to keep its nose out of an issue beyond its purview."
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PSU gained a competitive advantage in covering up the rape, so the NCAA should be involved.
Beyond retarded reaching...and PSU is going to feel quite a competitive disadvantage now at the back end regardless. A Scarlett letter is far worse than death.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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Derp only the legal system should be handing out punishments
How is removing a name a "punishment"?
Please, try to be logical here.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:17 pm to Sophandros
Have the NCAA revoke Penn State University’s membership.
This will allow Penn State University to continue to operate and participate in all activities not sanctioned by the NCAA.
This will allow Penn State University to continue to operate and participate in all activities not sanctioned by the NCAA.
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