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re: For everyone who says Cam is a wuss PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:42 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:42 pm to magildachunks
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Most of the team was cut and replaced by Sean Payton.
So by "decimated" you mean got better with a good coach?
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His "prime" was after the injury in SD that everybody said was something he could never come back from.
By everybody you mean the same drama queens who acted like Peyton would never play again.
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See the difference between him and Cammy yet?
Yea one is a classic drop back passer with great accuracy, the other is an all time athlete with a cannon for an arm with improving accuracy. Both compete at the highest level in their profession and are great competitors. One clearly has the upper hand over the other since entering the league.
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:42 pm to RandySavage
You need to read the posts that others are responding to before you respond to the post. The other guy I was responding to kept saying the system other QBs who elevate the players is bc of the system they play in. Not necessarily the QB doing the elevating. According to him Cam elevates the play of the players and it is bc of him. Not the system. So when I made that comment I was commenting on that. You really need to learn to read. You still have not answered my question to you. It is ok. Your small brain probably can't formulate an answer that is logical.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:49 pm to RandySavage
You do realize that you are an idiot. No one thought Payton would be the coach he would turn out to be. Brees was considered a long shot to be a decent QB because of the shoulder surgery. The team had leadership issues and Brees elevated everyone around him and helped the team to 2 NFC championships and 1 SB victory in his first 4 seasons with the team. Cam is a phenomenal athlete. He is nowhere near being a leader like the other elite QBs in the league. It is bc of his actions and his attitude. He would rather "dab" with his teammates rather than get them ready to play in the bigger game of their career. If you ask Roman Harper off the record, he would say Brees is a better leader than Cam
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:50 pm to MasterKnight
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How come he could not overcome a 6 point deficit when he is so good at comebacks?
Throw in 12 penalties for over 100 yards and 21 QB pressures (first and second respectively in Super Bowl history).
But you're right, all on Cam.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:54 pm to RandySavage
I guess in the other games he played from behind in they never got pressure on him. They must have just stopped playing defense right? He did throw an INT. Lost 2 fumbles. Did not even go after one with the game still on the line. How do you explain a "leader" not going after the ball on that one?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:57 pm to MasterKnight
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No one thought Payton would be the coach he would turn out to be
So because you didn't know he was going to be a good coach means he isn't one and so his roster moves to implement his system still equal "decimating" the team? Even though in actuality they greatly improved it?
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The team had leadership issues and Brees elevated everyone around him and helped the team to 2 NFC championships and 1 SB victory in his first 4 seasons with the team.
Yea, I'm not a moron I recognize the impact Brees had on his team. He was great. So is Cam, you are just either too stupid or too blinded by your dislike of him to realize it.
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If you ask Roman Harper off the record, he would say Brees is a better leader than Cam
Hold on I'll give him a call and let you know what he says...
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You do realize that you are an idiot.
You may be on to something here. I've either wasted the last 30 min arguing with a complete moron or I've allowed myself to be trolled. Either way I should know better.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:57 pm to RandySavage
Cam broke the record for overthrown passes in the superbowl.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:58 pm to MasterKnight
He would rather dab than get them ready for the biggest game of their career? 
dud, the biggest game of those guys career was 2 weeks before that against AZ, before that the biggest game was the game against SEA. I'd say he did ok getting his guys ready for those games. You don't show up until he finally loses one. GTFO 17-1 season and you show up after he finally loses a game as proof that he isn't a leader. It's like someone showing up In a thread after the Warriors finally losing a game and saying that they are no good. It makes you look like a fool.
dud, the biggest game of those guys career was 2 weeks before that against AZ, before that the biggest game was the game against SEA. I'd say he did ok getting his guys ready for those games. You don't show up until he finally loses one. GTFO 17-1 season and you show up after he finally loses a game as proof that he isn't a leader. It's like someone showing up In a thread after the Warriors finally losing a game and saying that they are no good. It makes you look like a fool. This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:01 pm to Boomshockalocka
I would argue this is the first time in his career he lost a meaningful game when his team was the favorite.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:02 pm to RandySavage
I never said Cam is not great. He is a phenomenal athlete. He is definitely an imposing physical player especially at the QB position. That is not the argument. The argument is his attitude. His attitude sucks. He is not on same level as the other elite QBs maturity wise. Anyone that says he is on that level, is just a blind Cam supporter and will argue just to argue.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:05 pm to MasterKnight
Again, you're arguing two different things as if they are the same.
I will be on board with you in that he needs to try and handle himself differently in certain situations.
That said, it obviously does not affect his leadership or on field performance as he has proven everywhere he has been since he left Florida he is nothing but a winner who elevates, to incredible levels really, the performance of the individuals around him and the teams he is on. He is also may be the toughest player to ever play the QB position. In the modern era certainly.
I will be on board with you in that he needs to try and handle himself differently in certain situations.
That said, it obviously does not affect his leadership or on field performance as he has proven everywhere he has been since he left Florida he is nothing but a winner who elevates, to incredible levels really, the performance of the individuals around him and the teams he is on. He is also may be the toughest player to ever play the QB position. In the modern era certainly.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:06 pm to Boomshockalocka
Print the shirts then. 17-1. Regular season champs. That all that matters then. They should do a parade for them. He almost lost the Division Game when they had a 31 point lead and failed to score in the second half. Shitty leader to not get some points in the second half. Hey if you want to settle for second place that is your right. If Cam just wants to be a great regular season QB, that is his right too.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:08 pm to MasterKnight
31-0, game was over at half time. Wasn't no almost lost nothing. You're arguments are really weak. Seahawks are my team bro that game was over at half time.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:09 pm to MasterKnight
They were mostly up 31-0 because that shitty leader Russell Wilson threw a bunch of INTs. But hey he's gonna be the leader of Master Knight's team because he came back and scored some garbage points when the game was over and "almost" won. That's what really counts.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:16 pm to RandySavage
I'll just say this. My definition of what a "leader" should be at the QB position is different than your opinion. I'm not saying mine is better, than yours but just different. I'll agree he does elevate players around him that is what QBs do. To the other guy who just says his record is all that matters that is where I disagree. You can still be a great leader on a team that has a losing record. It is all about how you present yourself. To me Cam presents himself poorly in losing situations and over the top when he is winning. If he could lower his antics when winning and bring his emotions up a little when losing, I would say he is a mature professional QB and a leader of his team. His teammates will always say that he is the leader and stand behind him bc that's what they do. They are band of brothers and the locker room is a sacred environment. They will back each other up to the end.
damn breh Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:21 pm to RandySavage
If Cam is ever down 31 points and not sulking on the sideline and he leads his team to an "almost" improbable win, then yeah I would say he is my leader regardless of the outcome. My definition of a leader is not based on wins and losses. It is how that person carries himself on the field regardless of the score. Wilson could have easily said frick it and just give up. He did not. It was not garbage time. It was the playoffs. Carolina fans were shitting themselves bc they thought Seattle would come back to win. If Seattle had 4 min left in the game they would have won.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:26 pm to MasterKnight
Theres so much More to being a leader than what goes on during the games.
We don't have access to what goes on in the locker room, practices, OTAs, etc, etc so the way for us as fans to be able to see what teams have great leadership is to look at the results. When you nit pick certain scenarioa and say this is why he isn't a leader well you're making your decision off of incomplete information to say the least. You ever think for a second that others qbs sulk too. But it just isn't put on camera by the man in truck who decides what shot he wants to show you. Come on bro.
We don't have access to what goes on in the locker room, practices, OTAs, etc, etc so the way for us as fans to be able to see what teams have great leadership is to look at the results. When you nit pick certain scenarioa and say this is why he isn't a leader well you're making your decision off of incomplete information to say the least. You ever think for a second that others qbs sulk too. But it just isn't put on camera by the man in truck who decides what shot he wants to show you. Come on bro.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:27 pm to MasterKnight
The Goat Boom gotcha post cost over 30. True HOFer
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:32 pm to Boomshockalocka
That is like saying he does not know there are cameras going to be on him. The only reason the cameras are on him in losing situations is bc he sulks and has a reputation. No the other QBs don't sulk. Like I said my definition of a leader is different than yours. There are others , especially in the media, who think the way I think on what a leader should be when it comes to QB position. Cam has the tools to be one of the best QBs but his maturity level is hampering that.
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