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re: FINAL Game 3: Heat - 77 vs. Spurs - 113 | Spurs Lead 2-1

Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
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I think the Heat HAVE to win 2/3 in SA. Because I don't think Pop and the Spurs lose two straight close-out games regardless of where they are played


I will just say I disagree with you totally. The heat are built to win straight games. Big supporting cast and a tireless core.

The heat control this series. Min order for the spurs to win, something has to fall apart for Miami. Case in point, game 1.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
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Yeah, this series will be decided by these 2 players alone...

No, but there is no other CONSISTENT threat in this series. That was my point. Miller/Wade/Chalmers/Allen may show up for one game and kick arse, then have little impact the next.

Same for Green, Leonard, Duncan, etc.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 1:46 pm
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:48 pm to
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YEA DISREGARD DATA LETS JUST ALL THINK WITH EMOTION

WEEEEEE


I disregard your data because it's based off of 2 home games in a series. It's about as meaningful as when Vogel tried to use it to prove his team was better than the heat.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:48 pm to
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Big supporting cast
Splitter, Leonard, Green, Manu, etc is pretty damn good, probably better than Chalmers, Miller, Allen, Haslem, etc

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tireless core
Have you seen D-Wade? LeBron is the only player for the Heat I would call tireless. You know who else is tireless? Tony f-ing Parker.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
62009 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:51 pm to
Wade is hurt. It's obvious. Bosh is playing better and Allen, miller, Anderson and chalmers have all played well. As well as Norris cole. Chalmers lead all scores Sunday.

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:52 pm to
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I disregard your data because it's based off of 2 home games in a series.


Its the only data we have, it may not be significant, but its still valuable. we can use it to predict future outcomes. for someone to be 'convinced' that the series will go 7 games they should at least attempt to provide some type of statistical evidence to support their assertion.

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It's about as meaningful as when Vogel tried to use it to prove his team was better than the heat.



in 4/5 positions they probably were.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:56 pm to

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No, but there is no other CONSISTENT threat in this series. That was my point. Miller/Wade/Chalmers/Allen may show up for one game and kick arse, then have little impact the next


What is a consistent threat?

13/3/5 with 5 turnovers from Tony Parker?
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
Mile High
Member since Jun 2008
13115 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:58 pm to
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Miami has only lost ONE Qtr this series out of the 8.

This is what I have been thinking. They have been the better team in 7/8 quarters so far
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:58 pm to
Hey since you have to use statistical evidence, no matter how small and meaningless, to back up your claims, otherwise they are invalid, how about this?


The first two games alternated victors. SA won and then MIA won. Using this data, we can surmise that the most probable outcome will be for this trend to continue, with SA winning the series in 7 games.




That is just as statistically valid as your claim.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
62009 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:08 pm to
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genro


6 hours.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:10 pm to
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Have they come back from a 2-1 deficit with their next two games on the road?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:11 pm to
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So you think Pop and the Spurs would lose 2 straight close-out games?
You say that like there's no chance the Heat can win 2 straight home games.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:12 pm to
That's not an answer to the question. Have they?
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 2:12 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:12 pm to
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Dude. This isn't Oklahoma City
OKC was a betting favorite and lots of people picked them to win last year.

More people thought OKC would win than SA.

Hindsight...
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83993 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:12 pm to
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6 hours.


The Dojo is well aware of the sun dial's movements.

Patience is the best soil, Lanier-son. It's rich in wisdom and faith.

Remember, too much water washes the seed away. Too much light dries the soil. Balance is key, and such balance is only appreciated by patience.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:13 pm to
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You say that like there's no chance the Heat can win 2 straight home games.

I don't think the Heat win 2 straight single-elimination games against the greatest coach with the greatest dynasty of this era. Yes, that is what I'm saying.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:16 pm to
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the greatest dynasty of this era


Say whaaaaaaaaa?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Ray Allen was never shooting as bad as Battier
You mean other than the 82 game season just played?

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If you want to talk about Spo making good adjustments, talk about the defensive adjustments made against the Pacers/Hibbert
Yep. The Heat never doubled the post all year. It's easy to say it was a no brainer because Hibbert was killng them, but that's a tough decision to do something you never do in an elimination game.

The big adjustment that fueled the run in game 2 against SA was the Chalmers/Lebron pick and roll that left every SA player keying on Lebron and Chalmers just wide open to the lane like we've probably never seen before in a Finals, it was unreal.

But Spo gets zero credit for those adjustments. If that was Pop, this board would be all over it talking about how great the move was.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52396 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Miami led all of game one until an awful turnover prone 4th Qtr.


It was a 2-3 point margin throughout. You don't have a case here.

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Miami then proceeded to dominate game 2.


Again... Close game throughout until that 5-7 min stretch...

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Miami has only lost ONE Qtr this series out of the 8.


See above.

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