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re: Fandom: Geography vs. choosing "your" team
Posted on 4/26/11 at 4:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 4/26/11 at 4:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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They used to only show the Cubs. I think many of the folks citing this as the reason, grew up during that era. They didn't start showing the Sox until the late 90s, I think.
False. Jack Brickhouse did Sox games on WGN starting in the 40s and Harry Caray did them into the 80s before he left for the Cubs. The Sox have been broadcast on WGN non-stop since 1990.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 4:52 pm to nvasil1
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False. Jack Brickhouse did Sox games on WGN starting in the 40s and Harry Caray did them into the 80s before he left for the Cubs. The Sox have been broadcast on WGN non-stop since 1990.
That's not my recollection at all. Perhaps their national cable feed was different, but I clearly remember only seeing the cubs on there for the longest time.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I grew up in Dallas but was raised by my dad to love the Saints and all things LSU so now I attend school at LSU. I also like the Hornets, Colorado Rockies, and Avalanche because I hate how people in Dallas would bitch about everything with the teams and if they started winning jumped on the bandwagon quicker than you can say the word.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I think it's more the city you grow up in. I lived in Houston for 3 years and love repping the tigers and saints.
I consider Mississippi "home" atm and would never be a state or ole miss fan even if I retire here
I consider Mississippi "home" atm and would never be a state or ole miss fan even if I retire here
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:12 pm to lsu480
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What if you have lived other places or grew up watching other teams before your city had a team? Should you ditch those teams when your city gets one or if you move? I don't think so.
What about any Houston fans? Or oiler turned titan fans? Different circumstances of course. I'm sure Dallas lost quite a few Houston fans to the texans.
Eta: especially situations where ppeople live between a number of teams like spurs, mavericks, and rockets.
This post was edited on 4/26/11 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Perhaps their national cable feed was different, but I clearly remember only seeing the cubs on there for the longest time.
That's true, not all games on WGN are broadcast nationally. However, I remember watching Sox games in Canton, OH and Lubbock, TX during the '93 season when they won the West.
I'm not saying they were on as often as the Cubs during that time; as a matter of fact, once the Tribune bought the Cubs, they were of course going to push their asset on their network.
My point is that the White Sox weren't some ugly stepchild to the Cubs that WGN hid from the nation for decades. They were there to be watched, too.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:24 pm to nvasil1
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My point is that the White Sox weren't some ugly stepchild to the Cubs that WGN hid from the nation for decades. They were there to be watched, too.
they prob showed 4 or 5 cubs game to every 1 sox games. It was indeed like they were the stepchild.
ETA brickhouse called games for both teams on WGN for years until the Sox left the station. then he became the Cubs announcer. Same thing with Harray in the 80s
This post was edited on 4/26/11 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:36 pm to Lester Earl
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Same thing with Harray in the 80s
Actually, Harry was solely a Sox announcer for 11 years after he left St. Louis. When the Cubs hired him to replace Brickhouse, the Cubs asked him to continue his tradition of singing the 7th inning stretch, which he started doing at Comiskey.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
i'll tell you where this is troubling
by your definition, i should, technically, be an oiler/titan fan and not a saints fan (houston is 1 hour closer than nola)
also, i agree with baloo in that it's the teams you latch onto first (namely in youth adolescence). if you have no team in your region, then it's fair game for any team
by your definition, i should, technically, be an oiler/titan fan and not a saints fan (houston is 1 hour closer than nola)
also, i agree with baloo in that it's the teams you latch onto first (namely in youth adolescence). if you have no team in your region, then it's fair game for any team
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'll tell you where this is troubling
by your definition, i should, technically, be an oiler/titan fan and not a saints fan (houston is 1 hour closer than nola)
State boundaries can create some tricky issues in this dynamic as well. Generally speaking, I would say state boundaries should trump proximity (if it's not too close proximity, as in Lake Chuck to Houston).
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:41 pm to BMW7SERIES
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for who you want to root for, especially if your local team is in the duldrums
So bandwagon is COOL for you. So NOW that the METS suck donkey dicks you don't root for them????
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
LC is very much "texan," so state boundaries were tough
the cowboys and aggies dominated my childhood, fwiw
the cowboys and aggies dominated my childhood, fwiw
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:43 pm to nvasil1
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Actually, Harry was solely a Sox announcer for 11 years after he left St. Louis. When the Cubs hired him to replace Brickhouse, the Cubs asked him to continue his tradition of singing the 7th inning stretch, which he started doing at Comiskey.
im saying WGN didnt broadcast Sox games most of the 80's. When the Sox left WGN in the late 70s or early 80s, Harray started doing Cub game. The same year Sox left WGN, i think Brickhouse retired
the Sox didnt come back to WGN until early 90s. And they were never aired as much as the cubs.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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also, i agree with baloo in that it's the teams you latch onto first (namely in youth adolescence). if you have no team in your region, then it's fair game for any team
I will always be a Detroit Tiger fan as well as the Red Wings And A MICH fan, Just grew up watching those teams. Now I live in BR for the last 30 years and I like the Saints. If I still lived in Mich I am sure I would have a MICH man-cave like I have now with an LSU one. BUT when I was livin in Mich in 1971 I became an LSU fan after that great 28-8 POUNDING of ND on NATIONAL TV.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:47 pm to Lester Earl
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im saying WGN didnt broadcast Sox games most of the 80's. When the Sox left WGN in the late 70s or early 80s, Harray started doing Cub game. The same year Sox left WGN, i think Brickhouse retired
the Sox didnt come back to WGN until early 90s. And they were never aired as much as the cubs.
This is correct. I used to love being off during the week cause tehre were alot more Cubs games on during the day than there are now. HARRY CARREY=
Posted on 4/26/11 at 6:04 pm to dukke v
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im saying WGN didnt broadcast Sox games most of the 80's. When the Sox left WGN in the late 70s or early 80s, Harray started doing Cub game. The same year Sox left WGN, i think Brickhouse retired
the Sox didnt come back to WGN until early 90s. And they were never aired as much as the cubs.
Like I said in a previous post, once the Trib bought the Cubs in the 80s, they obviously took precedence on their own network. My whole point was that the Sox were broadcast on WGN, as much as the Cubs have been in the last 20 years particularly.
My original question wasn't meant to be a slam on why people are Cubs fans. I've just always found it fascinating that the Cubs built a national fanbase broadcasting bad baseball for many years while the Sox built no fanbase outside of Chicago, even though their games could still be watched nationally in an era before the internet and ESPN exploded.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 6:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Ditching your team b/c of moving somewhere is lame IMO.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 6:28 pm to nvasil1
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My whole point was that the Sox were broadcast on WGN, as much as the Cubs have been in the last 20 years particularly.
as a Cubs fan who grew up in this time period, no way that is correct. Maybe the last 5 years or so since WGN has cut down Cubs broadcast, but in the late 80s and throughout the 90s the Cubs were on TV like 5:1
Posted on 4/26/11 at 6:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Here's how you figure all this shite out:
If I died today, people would say, "Did you hear who died? xiv, the guy from Louisiana." No matter where I go, or how long I go there, I'm a Louisiana man.
So, fill in the blank for yourself (Army brats get a huge pass here, as do women since they are unable to understand this): I'm a ______ man.
Whatever you put in the blank, you root for those teams. If you grew up rooting for the Packers in the 1960's, and you're from New Orleans, you're a Saints fan starting in 1967. Period.
Anyone who disagrees with this is a huge pussy and no one owes you any respect, and your right to vote should be revoked and given to a convicted felon. Whenever you move to another neighborhood, you should have to alert your neighbors that a huge pussy has moved in down the street.
If I died today, people would say, "Did you hear who died? xiv, the guy from Louisiana." No matter where I go, or how long I go there, I'm a Louisiana man.
So, fill in the blank for yourself (Army brats get a huge pass here, as do women since they are unable to understand this): I'm a ______ man.
Whatever you put in the blank, you root for those teams. If you grew up rooting for the Packers in the 1960's, and you're from New Orleans, you're a Saints fan starting in 1967. Period.
Anyone who disagrees with this is a huge pussy and no one owes you any respect, and your right to vote should be revoked and given to a convicted felon. Whenever you move to another neighborhood, you should have to alert your neighbors that a huge pussy has moved in down the street.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 6:42 pm to Lester Earl
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as a Cubs fan who grew up in this time period, no way that is correct. Maybe the last 5 years or so since WGN has cut down Cubs broadcast, but in the late 80s and throughout the 90s the Cubs were on TV like 5:1
Sorry, but it's not been a last 5 years thing. As a Sox fan growing up in the same period, the broadcasts may not have been equal, but were similar. I watched plenty of Sox games on WGN when I was at LSU in the early 2000s. Also, as I stated previously, there was a period in the late 90s where the Sox had more games broadcast on WGN than the Cubs. It was hard to believe for people around here, and the local radio hosts joked about it, but it didn't make it less true.
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