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re: explanation of March Madness

Posted on 3/25/09 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 1:32 pm to
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Why do you people completely ignore the fact that a team's regular season determines their seeding in a tournament setting, thereby giving them a better shot at winning said playoff/tournament?

this year has a lot of favorites winning, but your average joe celebrates the underdog winning

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But saying that the regular season was pointless is retarded.

it's not pointless, but it's not worth a whole lot. i mean just look at arizona
Posted by TheLittleAristotle
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 1:43 pm to
here's a scenario for you:

Team A starts the season with a new coach and a boatload of underclassmen who, while very talented, don't have alot of chemistry from a lack of playing together in game situations. They struggle through the first month or two of the season in a tough non-conference schedule, but start to gel during the midway point. By the end of the season, they're all completely on the same page and crushing those in their way, as their chemistry has caught up with the abundance of talent.

However, due to their early season struggles, their overall record is not impressive. Based on your logic as stated ad nauseam, they shouldn't be invited to the postseason.

My opinion is that different sports (and in the same context, different levels of play like pro vs college) should be allowed to have their own unique postseason formats without people trying to push their own preferred formats down everyone else's throats.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 4:28 pm to
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You could lose every game and then win your final 10 games or whatever, and you're the national champs. That bothers me.


i give you every right to bitch about this....once it comes anywhere near happening, which it just hasn't.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 5:56 pm to
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Team A starts the season with a new coach and a boatload of underclassmen who, while very talented, don't have alot of chemistry from a lack of playing together in game situations. They struggle through the first month or two of the season in a tough non-conference schedule, but start to gel during the midway point. By the end of the season, they're all completely on the same page and crushing those in their way, as their chemistry has caught up with the abundance of talent.

However, due to their early season struggles, their overall record is not impressive. Based on your logic as stated ad nauseam, they shouldn't be invited to the postseason.


Shouldn't a championship be based on the ENTIRE season, rather than just the end?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476457 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 6:30 pm to
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Shouldn't a championship be based on the ENTIRE season, rather than just the end?

i think it's entire season, obviously

but the playoff mentality is ingrained in the American psyche, and most people see it through those lenses
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 6:34 pm to
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but the playoff mentality is ingrained in the American psyche, and most people see it through those lenses



Quit talking out of both sides of your mouth!!! IF a Mid-Major somehow wins the tourney, Then all of your previous arguments are mute!!!
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 6:41 pm to
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OK but what about the ACC or Big East or Big 10 you don't think they could make it undefeated in those conferences,


I don't think they go undefeated in any of the three, but definitely not the ACC or Big10
Posted by TheLittleAristotle
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Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:31 am to
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Shouldn't a championship be based on the ENTIRE season, rather than just the end?

no. i believe a champion should have to win when everything is on the line. whether it's having to win 1 game, 6 games in a row, or multiple series makes no difference to me. All of these are at the end of the season. As I said before, the regular season gets you an easier path in the postseason. I don't get how that concept is so controversial.



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but the playoff mentality is ingrained in the American psyche, and most people see it through those lenses

wtf are you talking about? are you now saying that we should play the season and then vote to crown the champion? now that's just being a pussy (no offense)

i thought you were the one pushing for the NBA-style, multiple best-out-of-x series playoffs?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476457 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 7:45 am to
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wtf are you talking about? are you now saying that we should play the season and then vote to crown the champion? now that's just being a pussy (no offense)

people always tend to focus on the end of the season in a pure playoff scenario

like people who try to say the giants showed how good they were because they lost well to the pats to end the year (seriously), and this shows that they deserve to be champs

you see it a ton with MM, especially with the bubble teams. the last 10 games or whatever is ALWAYS brought up.

it's not very common when it's clear who is the best at the end of the season in most sports
This post was edited on 3/26/09 at 8:05 am
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