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re: ESPN led SportsCenter with Danica, not the accident
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:45 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:45 pm to Tiger in NY
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I pay exactly zero attention to Nascar, but my impression is that Danica is basically the Anna Kournikova of racing. Is that about right?
Thats kind of insulting to Kournikova...
She actually won quite a bit.
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:03 pm to LSUsmartass
This thread is full of sad idiots. I'm no fan of Danica, but she deserves credit for what she has actually accomplished. I agree wholeheartedly that she gets way more attention than she deserves, but race car drivers depend on being able to attract sponsorship, so she doesn't give a shite what you think. Let's examine the facts you all have wrong:
1. Danica won an Indycar race in Japan. Anna Kournikova did not win a single professional singles title.
2. In that Indycar race, Danica beat Helio Castroneves (3-time Indy 500 winner), Dan Wheldon (2-time Indy 500 winner), Scott Dixon (2-time IRL champ, 1 Indy 500 win), and at least two other IRL series champions. Hardly a depleted field, although admittedly the two dominant drivers today, Franchitti and Power, were not in that race.
3. Danica had 7 podiums and 3 poles in IRL, and this is her record in the Indy 500: 4th, 8th, 8th, DNF, 3rd, 6th, 10th. Although she's not a top driver, she has a fantastic record of top-10 finishes there. She is definitely worthy as an oval driver. Her NASCAR career is early days, we'll see by the end of this season if she can stay out of trouble.
4. Danica drives for Tony Stewart, so that means his engines have the same power and he has access to all her data, and even Tony fricking Stewart didn't out-qualify her, so what makes you think 75 other drivers would have gotten pole in her car?
Again I'm definitely not a Danica fan, but I like analyzing stuff based on actual facts.
But my first thought when I heard she won pole was that it was a NASCAR conspiracy for ratings.
1. Danica won an Indycar race in Japan. Anna Kournikova did not win a single professional singles title.
2. In that Indycar race, Danica beat Helio Castroneves (3-time Indy 500 winner), Dan Wheldon (2-time Indy 500 winner), Scott Dixon (2-time IRL champ, 1 Indy 500 win), and at least two other IRL series champions. Hardly a depleted field, although admittedly the two dominant drivers today, Franchitti and Power, were not in that race.
3. Danica had 7 podiums and 3 poles in IRL, and this is her record in the Indy 500: 4th, 8th, 8th, DNF, 3rd, 6th, 10th. Although she's not a top driver, she has a fantastic record of top-10 finishes there. She is definitely worthy as an oval driver. Her NASCAR career is early days, we'll see by the end of this season if she can stay out of trouble.
4. Danica drives for Tony Stewart, so that means his engines have the same power and he has access to all her data, and even Tony fricking Stewart didn't out-qualify her, so what makes you think 75 other drivers would have gotten pole in her car?
Again I'm definitely not a Danica fan, but I like analyzing stuff based on actual facts.
But my first thought when I heard she won pole was that it was a NASCAR conspiracy for ratings.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:17 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
quote:
Danica drives for Tony Stewart, so that means his engines have the same power and he has access to all her data, and even Tony fricking Stewart didn't out-qualify her, so what makes you think 75 other drivers would have gotten pole in her car?
Daytona qualifying involves stepping on the gas and running the same line as everyone else. Any skill may have once been required was taken out when they repaved the track. Danica's team clearly spent more time preparing for qualifying than any other team there. Tony has better things to do than run a bunch of qualifying laps in practice for Daytona. Teams emphasize different things, just look at the difference between Johnson's and Gordon's Q times. They also have access to the same data. Drivers frequently say that a monkey could qualify at Daytona, so they obviously don't put much stock in it. I'd wager that any cup driver and most of the nationwide series drivers could take the fastest qualifying car and put it on the pole.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:27 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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1. Danica won an Indycar race in Japan. Anna Kournikova did not win a single professional singles title.
This actually might be the stupidest thing you said. Talk about comparing apples to oranges. There are four major tournaments a year with 128 players. Indycar has 15 races with 20+ cars each race.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:38 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Danica deserves no credit. She raced nationwide last year and was around 10th in points. No driver 10th in the nationwide series should be put in a cup car. She is awful. She raced in bristol last year and her best lap in practice was a full 2 seconds behind the leader. The whole lap only takes 15 seconds. She doesn't deserve what she has. frick her
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:08 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Daytona qualifying involves stepping on the gas and running the same line as everyone else. Any skill may have once been required was taken out when they repaved the track. Danica's team clearly spent more time preparing for qualifying than any other team there. Tony has better things to do than run a bunch of qualifying laps in practice for Daytona. Teams emphasize different things, just look at the difference between Johnson's and Gordon's Q times. They also have access to the same data. Drivers frequently say that a monkey could qualify at Daytona, so they obviously don't put much stock in it. I'd wager that any cup driver and most of the nationwide series drivers could take the fastest qualifying car and put it on the pole.
Oh I agree. Restrictor plate racing is stupid. But like everyone else, you are making excuses and not giving her credit for getting a pole position. Yes, the credit is not so great because it doesn't take great driver skill to drive alone on a superspeedway in a car that's gasping for air, but you all are giving her no credit, which is pathetic.
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This actually might be the stupidest thing you said. Talk about comparing apples to oranges. There are four major tournaments a year with 128 players. Indycar has 15 races with 20+ cars each race.
Huh? I didn't make the comparison. Tiger in NY, LSUsmartass, lsutigers1992, and bXerrumble made the comparison and I was just responding because they all had the facts wrong. Why are you only calling me out for comparing the two? And I didn't say she didn't win any majors, I said she never won any professional singles tournaments at all. I did a quick search but couldn't find out how many professional tournaments she played in.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:22 pm to LSUsmartass
quote:Actually, you have it backwards. Kournikova never won a pro tennis tournament, but Danica has won one pro race on the Indy circuit. I think Richard Petty had some interesting comments about Danica, namely that she has the potential to vastly expand NASCAR's audience, and if she's successful, she will make money for all NASCAR drivers. This week we found out that the daughters of Jeff Gordon and a couple of other drivers idolize Danica and asked their fathers if they could take their pictures with her. If these girls follow their fathers into the sport of auto racing as so many boys have done (Richard Petty, Kyle Petty, Dale Earnhardt, etc.), in the future, the NASCAR poobahs will saying "cha-ching".
I think Kournikova at least won a match or two in her day, I don't think Danica has a top 15 or 20 finish
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:38 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Danica won an Indycar race in Japan. Anna Kournikova did not win a single professional singles title.
This actually might be the stupidest thing you said. Talk about comparing apples to oranges. There are four major tournaments a year with 128 players. Indycar has 15 races with 20+ cars each race.
I think you might have a reading comprehension problem. TouchedTheAxeIn82 didn't say that Kournikova never won a Grand Slam event. He correctly stated that she never won a pro tournament of any sort, and FYI, there are a couple of tournaments per year on the main WTA circuit bedisdes the Grand Slam events.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:46 pm to trackfan
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I think you might have a reading comprehension problem. TouchedTheAxeIn82 didn't say that Kournikova never won a Grand Slam event. He correctly stated that she never won a pro tournament of any sort, and FYI, there are a couple of tournaments per year on the main WTA circuit bedisdes the Grand Slam events.
My reading comprehension is fine, I incorrectly thought I recalled her winning some smaller tournaments.
Regardless, Her career high ranking in singles is #8, so Anna >>> Danica.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:04 am to Yellerhammer5
Danica will never win a Sprint Cup race. Never.
Unless its a bullshite rain out.
Unless its a bullshite rain out.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:15 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
quote:
This thread is full of sad idiots. I'm no fan of Danica, but she deserves credit for what she has actually accomplished. I agree wholeheartedly that she gets way more attention than she deserves, but race car drivers depend on being able to attract sponsorship, so she doesn't give a shite what you think. Let's examine the facts you all have wrong:
1. Danica won an Indycar race in Japan. Anna Kournikova did not win a single professional singles title.
2. In that Indycar race, Danica beat Helio Castroneves (3-time Indy 500 winner), Dan Wheldon (2-time Indy 500 winner), Scott Dixon (2-time IRL champ, 1 Indy 500 win), and at least two other IRL series champions. Hardly a depleted field, although admittedly the two dominant drivers today, Franchitti and Power, were not in that race.
3. Danica had 7 podiums and 3 poles in IRL, and this is her record in the Indy 500: 4th, 8th, 8th, DNF, 3rd, 6th, 10th. Although she's not a top driver, she has a fantastic record of top-10 finishes there. She is definitely worthy as an oval driver. Her NASCAR career is early days, we'll see by the end of this season if she can stay out of trouble.
4. Danica drives for Tony Stewart, so that means his engines have the same power and he has access to all her data, and even Tony fricking Stewart didn't out-qualify her, so what makes you think 75 other drivers would have gotten pole in her car?
Again I'm definitely not a Danica fan, but I like analyzing stuff based on actual facts.
But my first thought when I heard she won pole was that it was a NASCAR conspiracy for ratings.
Holy shite you're comparing apples to rocks, Indy car stats?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:22 am to trackfan
I can wikipedia with the best of them, according to that Anna won 209 singles matches...Danica has won Zero sprint cup races, who in the flying frick is talking about tournaments?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:55 am to LSUsmartass
I will voluntarily take a week long self-ban if Danica finishes the 500 on the lead lap.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:14 am to Zantrix
It's strange how the op is about ESPN and yet almost everyone in this thread decided to shite on Patrick.
I don't think she is a good driver but she isn't in charge of ESPN.
I don't think she is a good driver but she isn't in charge of ESPN.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:16 am to jacks40
I've made my thoughts about ESPN abundantly clear since the first retirement watch for Favre then was blown out of proportion when he came back and had helicopters following his car - if it isn't live sports, then I'm not watching. the 21 hours of talking is just beyond dumb, and one of the reasons why most nascar fans can't stomach anymore OMGDANICAOMGDANICAOMGOMG
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 6:18 am
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:50 am to Tiger in NY
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but my impression is that Danica is basically the Anna Kournikova of racing. Is that about right?
But Dannica has taken over as the most overated sports person in HISTORY . She takes that over FROM kornikova
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:51 am to boXerrumble
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Thats kind of insulting to Kournikova... She actually won quite a bit.
LINK???????????/
Posted on 2/24/13 at 7:40 am to jacks40
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I don't think she is a good driver but she isn't in charge of ESPN.
GoDaddy was the lead sponsor for ESPN's NASCAR coverage last year and they were the named sponsor for several ESPN races.
So, yes....she DOES run their coverage. The obvious conflict of interest is embarrassing.
Fox and TNT don't let Lowes pay for and replace the actual sponsor of the race and then let Jimmie Johnson hijack their broadcast. ESPN does. For example, the actual name of the race could be the "Allstate 400," but ESPN calls the race "Martinsville, Presented by GoDaddy.com."
For the NASCAR illiterate, it would be like Monday Night Football having a game at Met Life Stadium, but ESPN chose to call the stadium "The Meadowlands, Presented by Budweiser."ESPN would never do that to the NFL, but they give the finger to NASCAR, their sponsors, and their fans every week.
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 8:03 am
Posted on 2/24/13 at 8:28 am to lsutigers1992
But, she's a girl.
Momma said girls always go first.
Now quit your bickering. We all know it's about ratings, viewership, and denying culpabiliity. I don't watch epsn.
Momma said girls always go first.
Now quit your bickering. We all know it's about ratings, viewership, and denying culpabiliity. I don't watch epsn.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 8:40 am to BestBanker
A TIRE LANDED IN THE BLEACHERS. SPECTATORS ARE IN CRITICAL CONDITION.
You'd think even ESPN would show some dignity and pause the Danica Patrick Hype Machine for 18 hours.
You'd think even ESPN would show some dignity and pause the Danica Patrick Hype Machine for 18 hours.
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