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Posted on 5/10/10 at 12:59 pm to Catfish John
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i do not see him losing at pebble Beach
I will take that bet. Might not make the cut. Thats right his game is THAT off.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 1:02 pm to Shankopotomus
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When you saw Tiger emerge from the fitness trailer after WD'ing from the tournament, it was the first time since 1999 that I thought "if" Tiger would ever break Jack's record rather than "when."
I think it was Trevino who said years ago that only 2 things would stop Tiger from breaking Jack's record...a bad back, or a bad marriage
Posted on 5/10/10 at 1:03 pm to guttata
I am also starting to join the club that he should dump Hank Haney for now, he really seems lost with his own golf swing.
I don't think he'll go back to Butch as long as Butch is working with Phil though, a spot where I think his own ego will hurt him in the long-run
I don't think he'll go back to Butch as long as Butch is working with Phil though, a spot where I think his own ego will hurt him in the long-run
Posted on 5/10/10 at 1:04 pm to Catfish John
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i do not see him losing at pebble Beach
I can't see how you could say that today. His swing is really bad right now, injury or not.
If he's healthy, and he gets his shite together in a month, he can win; but I think that's asking alot, even for Tiger.
Now, if his neck turns out to be no big deal, then the place to bet on him winning again would be St. Andrews. He owns that golf course like no other.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 1:05 pm to Shankopotomus
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I don't think he'll go back to Butch as long as Butch is working with Phil though, a spot where I think his own ego will hurt him in the long-run
he just needs to copy Adam Scott's swing...
Posted on 5/10/10 at 1:12 pm to ForeLSU
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he just needs to copy Adam Scott's swing..
also working with Butch
Posted on 5/10/10 at 2:25 pm to Shankopotomus
Until his neck problem is cleared up, it won't matter who his golf coach is.
Speaking from experience, when the disks are pressing nerves, you can get a lot of muscle contractions/cramps around your neck and the upper back. We saw evidence of this on video as he was rubbing his neck and upper back greenside a few times.
The good news in all this is he might be able to pick up a new endorsement deal for Icy Hot Wraps like Shaq.
Also, if the ulna nerve is impinged, he's going to get nerve pain down through at least arm all the way down to his fingertips (that's worst case). Swinging a golf club can severely irritate this condition and may explain some of the horrible shots he hit yesterday. If, in the middle of his swing, some nerves got pinched then he's not going to be able to complete his swing. It's just that simple.
He needs to heal, then hit the driving range. If there's no physical reason for his crappy play, then he should find a new swing coach.
Speaking from experience, when the disks are pressing nerves, you can get a lot of muscle contractions/cramps around your neck and the upper back. We saw evidence of this on video as he was rubbing his neck and upper back greenside a few times.
The good news in all this is he might be able to pick up a new endorsement deal for Icy Hot Wraps like Shaq.
Also, if the ulna nerve is impinged, he's going to get nerve pain down through at least arm all the way down to his fingertips (that's worst case). Swinging a golf club can severely irritate this condition and may explain some of the horrible shots he hit yesterday. If, in the middle of his swing, some nerves got pinched then he's not going to be able to complete his swing. It's just that simple.
He needs to heal, then hit the driving range. If there's no physical reason for his crappy play, then he should find a new swing coach.
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/10 at 2:30 pm to Shankopotomus
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also working with Butch
Quit working with him at the end of 2009 season. "on a break"
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/10 at 2:31 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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chiro available.
he better not be going near those bastards if he legitimately has herniations
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This type of injury is all about proper alignment and opening the disc space so it goes back into place
Not so much alignment as it is about having enough room in the lateral foramen for the spinal nerve to freely branch off from the chord. There are plenty of people out there who aren't in perfectly straight anatomical alignment and function at very high levels (even pro athletes) provided there are no significant disc bulges (outer layer of disc remains intact) or herniations (outer layer tears resulting in migration of fluid inside disc outward) impinging upon the nerve root itself.
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/10/10 at 2:33 pm to mtntiger
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Also, if the ulna nerve is impinged
you can't actually impinge the unlnar nerve at the vertebral level...you're not even at the brachial plexus yet (where the ulnar nerve branches off)
Posted on 5/10/10 at 2:41 pm to St Augustine
He's playing awful right now so anyone who bets he'll win at Pebble, you'd be an idiot not to take it. However, isn't Pebble playing fairly short by Open standards? I think I read that somewhere. So, if he hits 3 woods/stingers off the tee like the Old Tiger he'd have a much better shot of contending. But if he's spraying it off the tee with Open rough, it'll be gross.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 3:20 pm to St Augustine
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Not so much alignment as it is about having enough room in the lateral foramen for the spinal nerve to freely branch off from the chord. There are plenty of people out there who aren't in perfectly straight anatomical alignment and function at very high levels (even pro athletes) provided there are no significant disc bulges (outer layer of disc remains intact) or herniations (outer layer tears resulting in migration of fluid inside disc outward) impinging upon the nerve root itself.
True. He needs the MRI to be able to tell what the hell any of us are talking about. It is an injury that can and does heal itself over time. But the timeframe is usually 6 weeks. Surgery is not always the answer. Hope he doesn't opt for that just for a quick fix.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 3:23 pm to dukke v
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I don't think he wins another Major.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 3:51 pm to St Augustine
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you can't actually impinge the unlnar nerve at the vertebral level...you're not even at the brachial plexus yet (where the ulnar nerve branches off)
Perhaps I got the anatomy incorrect in my post, but I know from experience that I was getting nerve pain all the way down my right arm to my fingertips from two herniated discs in my neck. I tried cortisone and it didn't work. Since the surgery in December of 2003, I have no more pain, and the only reason my golf game is worse is from lack of play.
The only limitation I have now is a slight restriction looking up. Also, if I get a knock on the head, it can really knock me for a loop because I don't have as much shock absorption up top.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 3:55 pm to mtntiger
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Perhaps I got the anatomy incorrect in my post, but I know from experience that I was getting nerve pain all the way down my right arm to my fingertips from two herniated discs in my neck.
this is 100 percent correct but it was above the level of the ulnar nerve itself... your issues were from the spinal nerves being impinged upon in their respective foramen which actually much higher up the chain than the ulnar nerve (the ulnar nerve branches off the brachial plexus which itself is created by those same spinal nerves in your neck)
you still get the same symptoms
this is kind of similar to people with issues in their lumbar spine saying they have "sciatica"
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 5/10/10 at 4:12 pm to St Augustine
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this is 100 percent correct but it was above the level of the ulnar nerve itself... your issues were from the spinal nerves being impinged upon in their respective foramen which actually much higher up the chain than the ulnar nerve (the ulnar nerve branches off the brachial plexus which itself is created by those same spinal nerves in your neck)
To have neck pain that radiates all the way down to fingertips with numbness, it can only be a c6 or c7 radiculopathy. Right?
Posted on 5/10/10 at 4:23 pm to dukke v
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I don't think he wins another Major.
DUMBASS
Posted on 5/10/10 at 4:28 pm to Jeeves
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I don't think he wins another Major.
DUMBASS
What makes YOU so sure. There alot of players that have caught up to him.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 5:30 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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To have neck pain that radiates all the way down to fingertips with numbness, it can only be a c6 or c7 radiculopathy. Right?
generally yes IF it is coming from the neck...it can also be a lesion of ulnar, radial, or median nerves that you can determine by the distribution of the symptoms amongst other things if not originating at the c-spine.
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