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re: Eddie Bonine speaks candidly

Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:03 pm to
Considering the frickery with the previous votes, such as threatening B and C schools to vote for the split under threat of eliminating one of their divisions if it fell through, I think there were quite a number of principals willing to make wholesale changes.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:14 pm to
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Yet it is OK for schools in lawfully locked attendance districts with only a few hundred eligible boys to compete against a school that can pull literally thousands of boys in a metro area?


Yes, I agree Alexandria and New Orleans public schools do have an unfair advantage.

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OK, go to a 3/3 split, or even go to 7 divs (4/3)...whatever it takes to get all the games in the dome on one weekend.


It will never work. You have principals like Norman Booker (Many) who have no intention of working to find a solution. All Norman Booker cares about it hurting private schools and trying to find the easiest way to win a title.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 7:14 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47613 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:16 pm to
B needs to be eliminated and combined with 1A. If that’s too many schools, cut the class in half, but it isn’t fair that schools that size get double the number of teams at championship events
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:26 pm to
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7 divs (4/3).


This is the correct answer.

4 non select
3 select.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:32 pm to
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This is the correct answer. 4 non select 3 select.


Still too many.

6 divisions is the correct answer. End the split and use multipliers.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37105 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:46 pm to
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This is the correct answer.

4 non select
3 select.


Nah. The schools at the bottom of those divisions would be absolutely screwed.

If the split remains, we have the correct number of classes/divisions. Crazy as that is.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48313 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:11 pm to
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Yet it is OK for schools in lawfully locked attendance districts with only a few hundred eligible boys to compete against a school that can pull literally thousands of boys in a metro area?


The private schools don’t make those rules. Again, private schools aren’t the ones pushing to keep district attendance zones. And remember that private schools have to charge tuition.

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OK, go to a 3/3 split, or even go to 7 divs (4/3)...whatever it takes to get all the games in the dome on one weekend.


The number of games wasn’t really the issue.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:59 pm to
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The private schools don’t make those rules. Again, private schools aren’t the ones pushing to keep district attendance zones. And remember that private schools have to charge tuition.



Trust me when I say that the athletes who mattered, did not pay a dime in tuition. It either came from a donor or was a simple hand shake agreement with the parents. I've been in those meetings.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98813 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 4:30 pm to
Privates should tell Eddie Bonine to suck their dicks.

What an arrogant a-hole.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37105 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Privates should tell Eddie Bonine to suck their dicks.

What an arrogant a-hole.



And yet, Bonine is more on the sides of the privates than 1/3 of the public principals. Bonine wants to get rid of the split, or at least stop it from getting worse. A significant number of principals will never go back on the split.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98813 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Bonine wants to get rid of the split, or at least stop it from getting worse.


Because LHSAA stands on the precipice of taking it in the shorts if the privates form their own organization and collapse the LHSAA
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48313 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 5:47 pm to
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And yet, Bonine is more on the sides of the privates than 1/3 of the public principals.




No
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47613 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 7:51 pm to
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Trust me when I say that the athletes who mattered, did not pay a dime in tuition. It either came from a donor or was a simple hand shake agreement with the parents. I've been in those meetings.



I paid Mitchell Robinson’s tuition
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30550 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:44 am to
quote:


Eddie Bonine speaks candidly
Privates should tell Eddie Bonine to suck their dicks.

What an arrogant a-hole.

proof positive you are clueless
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
4973 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:01 am to
Lhsaa is a joke. I have 3 high schools in my area. One is .5miles, one is 1.6 miles and one is 7 miles from my house. Guess which one we are required to attend??
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:38 am to
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Lhsaa is a joke. I have 3 high schools in my area. One is .5miles, one is 1.6 miles and one is 7 miles from my house. Guess which one we are required to attend??



That's not the LHSAA bro...that's the district gerrymandering attendance zones for racial considerations
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30550 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:45 am to
seems some selects are willing to kill this over 9th grade out of zone eligibility...... just have em go in 8th grade.....if it matters that much....
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:24 am to
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Select should be 2 divisions. Maybe 3.


Agree. I hope the schools come back together, but if they don’t, they need to re-organize the select schools into fewer divisions. Playoffs are absurd when you have multiple teams getting byes, and teams who haven’t won any games still making it to the playoffs.
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:30 am to
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But if they must have an objective formula, then do like Indiana does and move programs up if they dominate, or down if they're getting blasted. Get some competitive balance for crying out loud.


Completely agree. Allow schools to be in different divisions for different sports. I know Curtis gets a lot of grief, but I’ve always given them a lot of credit that they are a 2A school that has chosen to play up in 5A because they want the best competition for the kids. It should be about having good solid and equal competition, not just about a bunch of schools trying to figure out how to dilute things enough so that they can win state.
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:38 am to
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Trust me when I say that the athletes who mattered, did not pay a dime in tuition. It either came from a donor or was a simple hand shake agreement with the parents. I've been in those meetings.


THIS is the problem. Everyone complains about attendance zones, recruiting, etc. Particularly in cities where the private schools far outweigh public schools in terms of educational opportunities, it is correct that the private schools are at an advantage because there is a wider variety of kids coming to that school. But for 95% of those kids, they are choosing to go to the private school because of the educational opportunities, and if that happens to benefit the private school athletically, then so be it.

The problem is the other 5% of the time, when private schools actively recruit kids. I’m talking about finding a kid at a middle school 45 minutes away, someone who never would have otherwise gone your high school, and offering them a full scholarship and other perks. That is the recruiting that has caused so many of these problems. The LHSAA needs to crack down on investigating kids like this, and when they see inappropriate recruiting that is obviously athletically-based, the kid shouldn’t be allowed to play sports at all. Sitting out a year doesn’t solve the problem.
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