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re: Drew Brees 320 yards away from 70,000 career passing yards
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:14 pm to jlovel7
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:14 pm to jlovel7
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This in and of itself is unimpressive. But Tom's got 5 Superbowl rings. Drew only has 1. So he has to hold onto those stats more so.
So if you are not the best of all time you suck.
Got it.
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:15 pm to jlovel7
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Very true. I didn't think about that which makes Favre and Brady much more impressive. Peyton only had to deal with the cold for a few seasons.
Rodgers too.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:17 pm to Retrograde
If you passed for 70k yards but only won 1 Super Bowl, played your career in a weak division, and played in a dome... he's not impressed.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:19 pm to TechDawg2007
If you combine his super bowl rings with Peyton manning’s they would just need 2 more to tie Tom Brady
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:23 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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If you passed for 70k yards but only won 1 Super Bowl, played your career in a weak division, and played in a dome... he's not impressed.
I mean if y'all are cool with him being objectively like the 4th/5th best of all time that's cool. But the Saints have always been ok with general mediocrity so it makes sense.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:25 pm to jlovel7
quote:4th or 5th best quarterback of all time?
I mean if y'all are cool with him being objectively like the 4th/5th best of all time that's cool.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
quote:4th or 5th best quarterback of all time...
But the Saints have always been ok with general mediocrity so it makes sense.
mediocrity...
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:27 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I'm just saying the Saints will settle for less than the very best. Champions won't.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:27 pm to lsufball19
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you have to think once Brees and Brady are done, those records should be safe for a long time. The NFL is really struggling with young QB talent.
And there ya go................
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:28 pm to jlovel7
quote:The frick does that have to do with anything?
I'm just saying the Saints will settle for less than the very best.
quote:Same question.
Champions won't.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:29 pm to dukke v
quote:Matt Stafford
And there ya go................
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:31 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Matt Stafford
Hopefully Carson Wentz can come back and be pretty good. The league needs superstar QBs
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:32 pm to TechDawg2007
If Brady is the goat, then Brees is the kid
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:33 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
It’s a 2 way street. If I say drew brees is a top 10 all time QB, saints talk will say I’m shitting on him
What those yards got you has to matter. It just does. So many variables a couple thousand yards or 50 TDs doesnt really settle who is best when you’re talking about those numbers
7 conference titles and 5 Super Bowls in the era of free agency. Now on the subject of weak divisions, the AFC East & AFC South have been weaker since the nfc South since they realigned the divisions
What those yards got you has to matter. It just does. So many variables a couple thousand yards or 50 TDs doesnt really settle who is best when you’re talking about those numbers
7 conference titles and 5 Super Bowls in the era of free agency. Now on the subject of weak divisions, the AFC East & AFC South have been weaker since the nfc South since they realigned the divisions
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:36 pm to DelU249
I don't think there is a GOAT QB. There are too many variables that a QB cannot control. There's a Mount Rushmore / Mount Olympus where the truly great ones go.
ETA: Stats definitely don't settle the GOAT debate. They are merely a factor. Hell, rockeater Eli Manning is #7 in yards #8 in TDs.
ETA: Stats definitely don't settle the GOAT debate. They are merely a factor. Hell, rockeater Eli Manning is #7 in yards #8 in TDs.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:42 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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I don't think there is a GOAT QB.
There is. He lives in Massachusetts, went to Michigan, and is married to a super model.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:44 pm to jlovel7
quote:What makes him better than Joe Montana? The one ring?
There is. He lives in Massachusetts, went to Michigan, and is married to a super model.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:44 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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What makes him better than Joe Montana? The one ring?
Yes. That's literally what the entire game is about.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:45 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:agree, but you kind of can...brady took team friendly deals freeing up cap space
There are too many variables that a QB cannot control.
manning and brees (who was a bargain and during that time the saints surprise surprise won a super bowl and would have won 2 if not for the final drive in SF) said "frick you, pay me"
and I don't blame them, but that's something that's definitely within their control. of course it takes trust that the savings will be well spent.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:46 pm to jlovel7
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Yes. That's literally what the entire game is about.
Oh lord. I love the "rings are all that matter when determining who is better" argument. Y'all should have learned from those that went before you.Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:48 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Oh lord. I love the "rings are all that matter when determining who is better" argument. Y'all should have learned from those that went before you.
Ok. You win the argument. Drew Brees with his 1 ring and 70k yards is better than Tom Brady and his 5 rings and however many yards he has. There's one stat that matters. Wins. And there's one win a season that means more than the rest of them and that's the super bowl. Tom has 5. Drew has 1.
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