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re: Do You Kind of Want to See Big Time College Athletics Destroyed?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:30 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:30 am to AlaTiger
Absolutely. It's a total sham and a sad reflection of our society. $5-7M for people coaching amateurs, ridiculous staffing like position "consultants", absurdly lavish facilities, fake "student" athletes, impotent 35 yr old men following around 17 year olds... the whole thing is a joke. Can't wait to see it come crashing down.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:33 am to Lou Pai
Sark as an offensive consultant was the best
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:37 am to AlaTiger
Do you want people to lose jobs that had absolutely nothing to do with this?
People that would be hurt
Support Staff
Vendors
Factory Workers
People that would be hurt
Support Staff
Vendors
Factory Workers
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:39 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:38 am to AlaTiger
Not sure how you could make them, but the NFL and NBA need a true minor league like MLB. The NBA has tried with the D league, but the NFL could care less. Minor leagues would help cull these rough runners and agents.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:40 am to AUCE05
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Minor leagues would help cull these rough runners and agents.
No it would not. It would probably make it uncontrollable. As you would get schools bidding vs leagues.
I dislike the NCAA for a lot of things, but it is needed. They just need to better leadership and enforce what is on the books equally.
In CBB the first thing they need to do is get rid of POD system in the Tournament, it is structured to give the higher ups the advantages it swears it never does. It also needs to get rid of Emmerett. He and Myles Brand are/were the worst thing that happened to the NCAA.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:43 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:43 am to sms151t
bullshite. It works great in baseball. Giving kids an option to turn pro early removes that need to have these shady people involved.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:44 am to AUCE05
You are comparing baseball to football? Come on now. You think it is all on the up and up in baseball with agents/scouts and schools?
Go research some of the academies stories. It would become that in the USA instead of the islands.
Go research some of the academies stories. It would become that in the USA instead of the islands.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:47 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:44 am to sms151t
More basketball.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:44 am to AlaTiger
No. Love college football.
It was probably worse back then if anything. No telling what depths teams reached with cheating when there was almost no chance of getting caught.
quote:
Those reminiscing for the "good 'ol days" of it being "clean" are performing some real revisionist history. Plenty of hundred dollar handshakes, just not the means to expose them like we have today (i.e. Social media, internet, etc).
It was probably worse back then if anything. No telling what depths teams reached with cheating when there was almost no chance of getting caught.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:47 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:09 am to AlaTiger
If college athletics gets destroyed (it won't) college football will be replaced with a minor league football. I'd rather see that type of system than what we have now, forcing people to pretend to be students
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:18 am to Lou Pai
quote:
Do You Kind of Want to See Big Time College Athletics Destroyed?
As fans, we all share a part of blame to what it has become.
Look at recruiting sites and services. Look at the spectacle signing day has become.
Head coaches are the highest paid government employees throughout the states. Not the Dean of the Universities. Head football and basketball coaches.
Look at the "arms-race" of building elite facilities and 100,000+ stadiums.
Look at the exposure (or over-exposure) these players get and receive. This isn't Mount Union vs. Wittenberg, Wesleyan vs. St. Olaf.
This is Michigan. Ohio State. Penn State. Alabama. USC. Texas. These are major, major money makers. We're talking $100+ million here. The system is broken and corrupt. But, when you're dealing with that kind of money, it isn't going to revert back to the "good ole' days".
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:22 am to AlaTiger
quote:I do not want to see it destroyed but I would love to see it greatly overhauled. I'm tired of kids getting into schools strictly for their 40 times and bench press numbers.
Do You Kind of Want to See Big Time College Athletics Destroyed?
I'm tired of certain TV channels glorifying 18 year old high school kids with their own signing day coverage.
I'm tired of the criminal element and entitlement that seems to have plagued a lot players at Power 5 schools.
I would be completely fine with the overall quality of Power 5 football declining if it meant that TRUE student athletes were playing and representing their schools.
It's the money and win at all cost driving all the bad decisions coaches make on taking "chances" on bad kids.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:32 am to AlaTiger
No. I wouldn't mind the bubble bursting a little though.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:34 am to AlaTiger
quote:Y'all made fun of esports. But it's the next big corrupt sport.
Something will replace it.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:35 am to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
Sark as an offensive consultant was the best
That was unbelievable. I'm glad it blew up in Saban's face.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:56 am to AlaTiger
I don't know if destroyed is the right word.
But I would like it to be more of what it purports itself to be. Amateur athletes getting a real education while playing competative sports.
And if that's not possible, then just admit what it is, minor league professionals playing under the name of a given school and pay them as such.
The whole facade that they are "student" athletes is insulting.
But I would like it to be more of what it purports itself to be. Amateur athletes getting a real education while playing competative sports.
And if that's not possible, then just admit what it is, minor league professionals playing under the name of a given school and pay them as such.
The whole facade that they are "student" athletes is insulting.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:06 am to memphis tiger
quote:That comment does not apply to ALL of the players but it certainly applies to many.
The whole facade that they are "student" athletes is insulting.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:08 am to memphis tiger
quote:If we are talking about major college sports (CBB & CFB). It was never this to begin with and people think things are so bad now. They were much worse during the 70's-90's.
But I would like it to be more of what it purports itself to be. Amateur athletes getting a real education while playing competative sports.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:14 am to JBeam
quote:
If we are talking about major college sports (CBB & CFB). It was never this to begin with and people think things are so bad now. They were much worse during the 70's-90's.
I played at a DII school in the early/mid 90's. We're now actually the smallest D1 FCS school in the country. I spent countless hours in study hall maintaining my grades and I can thank my lucky stars for my coaches pounding scholastics into our noggins. None of us were going to be NFL superstars and they made damned sure we were on track to graduate.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:18 am to NWarty
This isn't about destroying college athletics. It's about cleaning it up. The NCAA has proven time and again it either can't or won't do it, so the FBI is bringing in the heavy artillery. I said it when this happened...in the past, getting caught wasn't a huge deal. Forfeit past wins, get fired, go to another school, rinse/repeat. But now if these guys know that they're looking at hard time in federal prison? That's pretty much the only threat that will change the game.
I like it. Hit the reset button and even the damn playing field.
I like it. Hit the reset button and even the damn playing field.
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