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re: do we see a non-SEC national champion next year
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:27 am to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:27 am to VerlanderBEAST
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the voters change their logic every year
I'll agree with that part of the argument because it seems like it's been true.
2007 was best resume to include LSU (probably fair)...this year was "eyeball test" to exclude Okie State.
2006 was no-rematch.
I don't think there is anything sinister...but the goalposts seemed to fluctuate.
The BCS is messy and teams have caught breaks to sneak into the game. It's no more a system than politics. A system requires that the rules stay the same and everyone has an equal shot. Given the SEC's winning the BCS title over the years...you can't say that's really true...when perception and argument matter so much in choosing the participants.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 3:28 am
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:08 am to Zamoro10
To be fair though, it seems like in all of those instances they have gotten it right.
2006 - people wanted Michigan/tOSU rematch. Instead Florida jumps Michigan and kills tOSU.
2007 - LSU jumps from 7 to 2 in the final week, but then beats tOSU handidly.
2011 - Alabama gets in over Oklahoma St. despite not even winning the SEC but manhandles LSU.
Every team in question has ended up winning.
2006 - people wanted Michigan/tOSU rematch. Instead Florida jumps Michigan and kills tOSU.
2007 - LSU jumps from 7 to 2 in the final week, but then beats tOSU handidly.
2011 - Alabama gets in over Oklahoma St. despite not even winning the SEC but manhandles LSU.
Every team in question has ended up winning.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:00 am to VerlanderBEAST
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I have no beef with 2010 and 2009 but every other year has been a joke
Tell that to 08 Florida who is one of the top 5 best college teams to ever step on a field, moron.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:23 am to Atari
quote:So I guess an undefeated Notre Dame can't go per your argument because they can't win a conference championship? The conference championship argument is about as lame as they come.
Because a team that didn't win it's conference championship should NEVER be called national champions.
So a 2 loss conference champion should win a MNC over a 1 loss non-champion winner??? How about a 3 loss conference champion winner?
Silly argument.
Bama beat the consensus #1 team in the country. They deserve that title. Fact. And I hate Bama and have to work in an office full of Tide Fans.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:51 am to VerlanderBEAST
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I have no beef with 2010 and 2009 but every other year has been a joke
you mean like in 06 when Florida crushed OSU and Michigan was ravaged by USC?
Or 07 when LSU crushed OSU? Who would you have put in over LSU...Georgia?
Or 08 when UF was beating everyone in the nation by 30+ pts/game. Would you have preferred Oklahoma vs Texas...seems like they might have played already.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:55 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Alabama didn't belong in the title game based on the logic used in 2006
So THATS what this is about. You still butthurt that Mich didn't get a shot at OSU again.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:55 am to St Augustine
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r 07 when LSU crushed OSU? Who would you have put in over LSU...Georgia?
The problem is that based on this year....maybe if next year was the same scenario...that may happen.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 7:18 am to Buckeye06
The SEC has done a fantastic job marketing itself in the BCS era. This has had the added benefit of more recruits staying home and pulling great players from elsewhere... And being able to have an arms race of great coaches (assistants and head).
Assuming an equal playing field things "catch up" though and go in cycles. Just look at the SEC of the 80's and 90's. Some great teams here and there but by no means like today.
Assuming an equal playing field things "catch up" though and go in cycles. Just look at the SEC of the 80's and 90's. Some great teams here and there but by no means like today.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:35 am to Atari
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Because a team that didn't win it's conference championship should NEVER be called national champions.
What a foolish, foolish statement.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Because a team that didn't win it's conference championship should NEVER be called national champions.
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What a foolish, foolish statement
I agree
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:27 pm to charlottetiger
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Because a team that didn't win it's conference championship should NEVER be called national champions.
so if UGA had beaten LSU in the SECCG, neither LSU nor Bama should have played in the BCSNCG?
so who would be in it then? Oklahoma St(lost to Iowa State) vs Oregon(lost badly to LSU)?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Someone has to beat an SEC team in the NCG. Until then, can't blame voters for putting SEC team(s) in there.
So, I agree.
As an Oregon fan, I would have wanted nothing to do with BAMA or LSU. I didn't watch the game but turned it on afterwards. One look at Upshaw and that was enough to decide that Oregon would have been demolished.
Call me biased but I think the next non SEC champion comes out of the PAC.
So, I agree.
As an Oregon fan, I would have wanted nothing to do with BAMA or LSU. I didn't watch the game but turned it on afterwards. One look at Upshaw and that was enough to decide that Oregon would have been demolished.
Call me biased but I think the next non SEC champion comes out of the PAC.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 12:31 pm
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