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re: Do any fans of a successful CFB program bitch about their coach more
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:48 pm to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:48 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Name another team or coach that didn't cross the 50 yard line in the game until halfway through the 4th quarter.
Name another coach that had to beat a team that was #1 in every defensive category, twice.
specific details is not the point. Spurrier lost a title game by 37 points, it happens. There are valid criticisms of the offense and offensive philosophy, but to say the coach is no good because of 1 terrible game is nonsense.
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:49 pm to Choupique19
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The rest of the nation does not respect Coach Miles
I happen to live in a city that has a lot of transplants, so I get to interact with a diverse set of fans.
Your statement is blatantly false.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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the coach is no good because of 1 terrible game is nonsense
exactly.
I think that these are the same people who would base their opinion of a QB based on whether his kicker makes or misses a field goal at the end of the Super Bowl...
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Name another coach that had to beat a team that was #1 in every defensive category, twice.
What does that have to do with the way he lost the game?
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specific details is not the point.
We're talking about how he lost the game. How are specific details not the point?
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Spurrier lost a title game by 37 points, it happens
And id argue his team still had a better chance to win the game because they were capable of moving the ball and scoring points.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:24 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:And, what's the point?
Or 0 national titles. And there are a hell of a lot more what if scenarios that would lean towards 0 than 3
What is the point of playing the what if game, ya know, when you can play the what actually happened game?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:26 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:seems like they were equally as incapable of stopping the other team as LSU was from scoring, so I don't know.
And id argue his team still had a better chance to win the game because they were capable of moving the ball and scoring points.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:27 pm to Sophandros
Right now, the Tiger Rant is an absolute goddamn embarrassment. It makes me ashamed to be associated with "fans" like ours. And anyone who says Miles gets no respect nationally is an idiot. About 100 schools would love to have him. The Rant needs to be blown up and rebuilt in about a month after the frickheads go away.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:30 pm to LSUGrad9295
Go venture over to the SEC Rant and see how many of the other 13 SEC teams would trade their coach for Les Miles.
You may get 4 or 5 out of the 13.
Some radio host on the Atlanta ESPN radio was breaking down the Chick Fil A bowl before the game and said "LSU has the better players, but they also have Les Miles, so Clemson has a chance."
You may get 4 or 5 out of the 13.
Some radio host on the Atlanta ESPN radio was breaking down the Chick Fil A bowl before the game and said "LSU has the better players, but they also have Les Miles, so Clemson has a chance."
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:40 pm to Choupique19
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"LSU has the better players, but they also have Les Miles, so Clemson has a chance."
sad, but true. Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:26 pm to shel311
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And, what's the point?
Well for one, the scenarios the original poster you were responding to we're much more simple and have a much higher probability of occurring than any scenario that gets les miles 3 national titles.
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What is the point of playing the what if game, ya know, when you can play the what actually happened game?
Because the what if game is actually relevant here.
Les miles played for a championship in 2007 because 2 other teams ranked ahead of his team lost, one of them in an enormous upset. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
The penalty in the Tennessee game had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the play that happened. The players had no idea what was going on or what to do and a bad snap happened. That was going to happen if there were 13 guys on the field or 9 guys. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
There a shitload of ways that a football can land to have it not bounce straight up in the air as it did in the Florida game. The ball just so happened to bounce perfectly, on a retarded play call. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
Also, isn't this a message board designed at least in part for debates? Are what if scenarios not part of debates?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:31 pm to shel311
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seems like they were equally as incapable of stopping the other team as LSU was from scoring, so I don't know.
Not true, as Florida actually stopped Nebraska at least twice in the game. That's 2 more times than LSU scored.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:27 am to Open Your Eyes
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What does that have to do with the way he lost the game?
You don't think playing the first D in 25 years to lead the nation in the 4 main defensive statistical categories may have played a part in a bad offensive performance?
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We're talking about how he lost the game. How are specific details not the point?
I wasn't, i was talking about how other, well respected coaches have lost big bads in embarassing fashion.
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And id argue his team still had a better chance to win the game because they were capable of moving the ball and scoring points.
The lost by 5 TD
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:33 am to Choupique19
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Go venture over to the SEC Rant and see how many of the other 13 SEC teams would trade their coach for Les Miles.
You may get 4 or 5 out of the 13.
Some radio host on the Atlanta ESPN radio was breaking down the Chick Fil A bowl before the game and said "LSU has the better players, but they also have Les Miles, so Clemson has a chance."
I hate to sound like a broken record, but you really do seem to have an inferiority complex. What other people think seems to be more important to you than anything else.
The opinion of message board fans and talk show hosts is really not valid. I can find you all kinds of ESPN radio hosts that have opinions you'd disagree with.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:45 am to Open Your Eyes
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Well for one, the scenarios the original poster you were responding to we're much more simple and have a much higher probability of occurring than any scenario that gets les miles 3 national titles.
No, the points he made don't conform to your view, that's it, they are just as likely.
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Les miles played for a championship in 2007 because 2 other teams ranked ahead of his team lost, one of them in an enormous upset. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
Excellent point. Same thing applies to Nick Saban and Alabama the lst 2 seasons. If just 3 easy FG's are made in games Nick Saban was not even coaching, he would have only 1 NC and be in his 2nd straight Sugar Bowl. One of those missed FG was in a game that was as big an upset based on the spread as Pitt over WVU.
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The penalty in the Tennessee game had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the play that happened. The players had no idea what was going on or what to do and a bad snap happened. That was going to happen if there were 13 guys on the field or 9 guys. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
in the 2002 Kentucky game, Nick Saban tried to call a TO, but didn't get it, if he had, the Blue Grass miricle doesn't happen. If Lorenzen doesn't call a TO with 15 seconds left, as his coach did not want, the BGM doesn't happen.
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There a shitload of ways that a football can land to have it not bounce straight up in the air as it did in the Florida game. The ball just so happened to bounce perfectly, on a retarded play call. Les miles had absolutely nothing to do with that.
Are all fake kicks retarded, or only the one's called by Les Miles? If you think Les is the only coach to benefit from a good bounce, prehaps you are retarded. Or maybe you just see what you want to see. Les calls a fake FG its retarded. Saban or Sean Payton or Urban Meyer do, they are genius.
What did Saban have to do with Ole Miss' all SEC kicker missing 2 FGs in the 2003 game? Or Tenn missing 3 in the 2009 Bama-UT game? What about the end of the SEC CG this year? All coaches get lucky. You just want to hold it against Les. All what scenarios that result in him losing a game he won are valid, but ones that have him winning are not. That's called not being objective.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:02 am to Choupique19
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Go venture over to the SEC Rant and see how many of the other 13 SEC teams would trade their coach for Les Miles. You may get 4 or 5 out of the 13.
Holy shite, you really cited the SEC Rant in a legitimate football discussion
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:32 am to Open Your Eyes
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No you don't respect him so you assume everyone thinks like you, you are wrong, plenty of people respect him.
The same could be said for you. Just because you think that he is a good coach doesn't mean that other people do. Many people across the country especially SEC think Miles is somewhat of a joke.
And sorry but most people in the country would agree that LSU has top 1 or 2 talent the past few years.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:38 am to chuckitdeep
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The same could be said for you. Just because you think that he is a good coach doesn't mean that other people do. Many people across the country especially SEC think Miles is somewhat of a joke.
Opinions will not be 100% either way, but he said no one respects Miles, that's plainly false. What rival fans think is not valid. The power brokers at Arkansas offered him a lot of money. I'm sorry but you don't win this many games, recruit all these high draft picks by being a bad of a coach.
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And sorry but most people in the country would agree that LSU has top 1 or 2 talent the past few years.
And LSU is 34-6 the last 3 seasons. There is only 1 team better than that.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 9:46 am
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:42 am to Choupique19
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Go venture over to the SEC Rant and see how many of the other 13 SEC teams would trade their coach for Les Miles.
You may get 4 or 5 out of the 13.
the fact that most other fans are delusional as well doesn't matter much to me. Miles is one of the most successful coaches in the country. The fact that he isn't Saban is just one of those things that people just need to get over (also, as much as people talk about Miles being lucky, Saban owes a ton to luck as well -- as does every successful coach, but particularly one playing for back-to-back titles with back-to-back one-loss teams).
By any metric, LSU is one of the ten most successful programs in the nation during Miles tenure (probably top five, but I'll spot some minor quibbling).
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:45 am to H-Town Tiger
I never did hear the details. Any idea of what they were?
That being said Arkansas offering him alot of money doesn't mean much to me. Let me know when Texas, Alabama or USC come calling.
I agree that LSU has done awesome. Les has done a great job recruiting and having a good defense. To me the Les bashing comes in with clock management and offensive play calling.
That being said Arkansas offering him alot of money doesn't mean much to me. Let me know when Texas, Alabama or USC come calling.
I agree that LSU has done awesome. Les has done a great job recruiting and having a good defense. To me the Les bashing comes in with clock management and offensive play calling.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:45 am to Kafka
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Do any fans of a successful CFB program bitch about their coach more
than Rantards whine about Les Miles?
no it's rather insane
and then add the morons from the Bamas, OSU's (2nd in this thread) and the other trolls and it becomes toxic
it's a very foul fanbase (if they are fans) and it's sad and disturbing
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