re: Do any fans of a successful CFB program bitch about their coach more

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I guess you and I are just complete opposites when it comes to enjoying LSU football. I don't like close/exciting games against teams that aren't very good.

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I understand and agree for the most part, but i think other teams have a similar amount of playing down to the competiton games as LSU, but we don't notice it as much. We did not have a game like that in 2011 and in 2010 it was really only Tenn maybe OM, I don't count Fla, they are talented and it was at the swamp. 2009 OM was a good team and they really outplayed us, game should not have been that close because OM should have been up by more.

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after the game i was listening to the radio and they interviewed a player...minter i think

his comments were basically, "we didn't win, but we kept it close and the chips didn't fall the way we wanted."

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I'm glad I didn't hear that. It would've pissed me off. That's the same bullshite coachspeak that we get from Miles. It shouldn't be a "Here is our plan for the game, and let's hope it works, and we'll do it whether it works or not" strategy. That's what happened last year in the NCG.

I'm not saying the same thing happened Monday night, but it's disappointing to hear a player saying that. But I'll try not to get mad at a kid speaking from an emotional point after a tough loss.

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but i think other teams have a similar amount of playing down to the competiton games as LSU, but we don't notice it as much.

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Well like someone said (Baloo maybe?) earlier, obviously we're gonna notice LSU's struggles more than other teams because we are LSU fans. But that doesn't change the fact that LSU seems to do this a lot. Sure, we ultimately win in the end most of the time, but it's games that should be glorified practices and they end up turning into 4th quarter nailbiters.

I don't think there's anything wrong with not being happy about that, and I don't think that just because we won the game, that means that there aren't things to criticize or be pissed about.

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Well like someone said (Baloo maybe?) earlier, obviously we're gonna notice LSU's struggles more than other teams because we are LSU fans. But that doesn't change the fact that LSU seems to do this a lot. Sure, we ultimately win in the end most of the time, but it's games that should be glorified practices and they end up turning into 4th quarter nailbiters.

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well an easy thing to do is list BCS opponents of our close games. let's take auburn, for example:

BCS Team: MOV

Clemson: -13
Moo State: -18
Arky: -17
Ole Miss: -21
Vandy: -4
TAMU: -42
UGA: -38
Bama: -49

LSU: -2

Ole Miss

Texas: -35
Bama: -19
TAMU: -3
Auburn: +21
Arky: +3
UGA: -27
Vandy: -1
LSU: -6
MSU: +17



Arkansas

Bama: -52
Rugers: -9
TAMU: -48
AU: +17
UK: +42
Ole Miss: -3
USC: -18
MSU: -31
LSU: -7

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They didn't give 2 shits about Towson

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Ole Miss is a good team

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they were 6-6 this year

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Arkansas arguably should have beaten us. That was a poor performance but we won.

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H Town doesn't even watch the games, he only loos at the score

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The only game i didn't watch was Clemson, I was going to watch it yesterday, but opted not to, other wise, I've watched pretty much every game, every year except for the occasional scrub game that's not on TV, even then I can't think of the last one i missed, maybe 2009?

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If he doesn't get in those games, he finishes ranked in the top 3 at worst. Miles will be out of the top 25 once, and out of the top 10 another two times.

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So Bama is better now, big deal, doesn't mean LSU is not good.

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Why talk about playing down to competition in 2010. Let's look at 2012.

Auburn
Towson
Ole Miss
Arkansas

Auburn and Arkansas were flat out awful teams that got drummed by every good team this year.

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because I'm looking at the big picture and not fretting over a couple of games. I agree we played like shite in all of those games. They were frustrating, not fun to watch. I agree. We've also had plenty of games where we beat the crap out of teams, 2012 Wash. 2011 11 times etc

i love how minter plays on the field but the les miles attitude trickling down to our best player is disturbing.

Brent Venables, the Clemson defensive coordinator, was mocking LSU's offense by saying, "A trick play for LSU's offense is a fullback dive." That's very similar to what a Towson defender said after the game.

So let's go with the thread title...

How many successful college football coaches have opposing players, coaches, and neutral football analyst openly mock the simplistic offensive approach of those teams?

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I don't know or care what the kids at the cool lunch table say, I'm not in HS any more.

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well played, sir