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Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:50 pm to shel311
I mean it's year 3, not 2 or 1.
He's pulled every gimmick he's could to get recruits, and anything and everything in between, and still a 3rd place finish in his division.
He's pulled every gimmick he's could to get recruits, and anything and everything in between, and still a 3rd place finish in his division.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:52 pm to SeeeeK
What the hell is with the arbitrary year 3 standard?
Outside of Sagan and Meyer, which "great" coaches today had firmly established themselves by then?
What was dabo doing year 3?
Outside of Sagan and Meyer, which "great" coaches today had firmly established themselves by then?
What was dabo doing year 3?
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:54 pm to shel311
quote:
There's been nothing to suggest that he's better than Hoke IMO.
Ehh...Hoke won the majority of his games year 1, in a very down Big 10. He was horrid every year after that.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
He also had denard Robinson
If harbaugh had denard last year, UM would be a playoff team
The issue with this board is that they are not educated about UM
Especially rocket31, who relies on Medicaid
If harbaugh had denard last year, UM would be a playoff team
The issue with this board is that they are not educated about UM
Especially rocket31, who relies on Medicaid
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Harbaugh deserves criticism though. He needs to do the right thing and clean house on offense.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Carroll and Stoops and Saban won Natty's by year 3.
Stoops year 2.
Stoops year 2.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
If harbaugh had denard last year, UM would be a playoff team
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Like I said earlier, last year was his chance and he blew it. I don't think they'll win the big 10 till 2019.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:02 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
hell, even brian kelly was playing for a national title in year 3
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:10 pm to Glorious
He’s doing way better than anything they’ve have in a while. He’s a solid coach just way overpayed
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He's underachieved big time.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:12 pm to shel311
quote:
There's been nothing to suggest that he's better than Hoke
God this board has some stupid people.
Hoke won 60% of his games. 56% in the Big 10.
Harbaugh has won 76% of his. 72% in the Big 10.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What the hell is with the arbitrary year 3 standard?
Outside of Saban and Meyer, which "great" coaches today had firmly established themselves by then?
Just since the 1980s?
Lou Holtz (Notre Dame, 1988) - 3rd season
Dennis Erickson (Miami, 1989) - 1st season
Gene Stallings (Alabama, 1992) - 3rd season
Lloyd Carr (Michigan, 1997) - 3rd season
Bob Stoops (Oklahoma, 2000) - 2nd season
Larry Coker (Miami, 2001) - 1st season
Jim Tressel (Ohio State, 2002) - 2nd season
Pete Carroll (USC, 2003) - 3rd season
Urban Meyer (Florida, 2006) - 2nd season
Les Miles (LSU, 2007) - 3rd season
Nick Saban (Alabama, 2009) - 3rd season
Gene Chizik (Auburn, 2010) - 2nd season
Urban Meyer (Ohio State, 2014) - 3rd season
And those are just coaches who won national championships by the end of year three. The list of coaches who have won their conference by the end of year three is much, MUCH longer. Harbaugh hasn't even done that yet.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:15 pm to 1ranter1
The reason threads like this are stupid is because they are pointless
Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. If Michigan fired jim harbaugh it would be the most bizarre decision in the history of American sports and wouldcahse a HUGE negative firestorm with media
Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. If Michigan fired jim harbaugh it would be the most bizarre decision in the history of American sports and wouldcahse a HUGE negative firestorm with media
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:18 pm to RollTide1987
But that list is pointless because most of the coaches had years 4,5,6,7,etc that were "down" years
Lloyd Carr went an average of 9-3/8-4 after his NC
Miles went 8-5 in 2008
If year 3 shouldn't be a rebuild and is a scourge on the coach, what about year 4s that are shite?
Lloyd Carr went an average of 9-3/8-4 after his NC
Miles went 8-5 in 2008
If year 3 shouldn't be a rebuild and is a scourge on the coach, what about year 4s that are shite?
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
But that list is pointless
No it's not. You merely asked the question and I merely gave you the answer.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
Well said. Last year was the year he needed to get people off of his back and break through.
Saban and Meyer have made everyone retarded. The fact that Jimbo is catching hell is insane. Bad years happen. ND and MSU were smart to chill out on Kelly and Dantonio and they are back to respectable. At least Harbaugh hasn't gone 4-8.
Michigan should be good next year, but the schedule is brutal. I'll apologize for Harbaugh and support mediocre football for two more years, then start getting pissed. U-M really has no other choice. I think Jim leaves after another year out of frustration and wanting to coach pro football, anyway.
Saban and Meyer have made everyone retarded. The fact that Jimbo is catching hell is insane. Bad years happen. ND and MSU were smart to chill out on Kelly and Dantonio and they are back to respectable. At least Harbaugh hasn't gone 4-8.
Michigan should be good next year, but the schedule is brutal. I'll apologize for Harbaugh and support mediocre football for two more years, then start getting pissed. U-M really has no other choice. I think Jim leaves after another year out of frustration and wanting to coach pro football, anyway.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:27 pm to RollTide1987
I think Michigan is in a similar situation as ND, it's just much harder to win at those schools nowadays. I agree with SEC fans, aside from the top recruits in Ohio, the talent up north simply pales in comparison to the south. Harbaugh needs to dip into the south and the Atlantic a lot more.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
Harbaugh has been going into the south and getting players
That's partially why this board hates him
You see, the typical white southern sec fan thinks they "own" black players and have a right to keep them on the SEC plantations
The rules against summer camps is essentially a fugitive slave law
Harbaugh and Meyer are basically Harriet Tubman and white Southern fans do not like that
They view 4 and 5 star black players as their property
That's partially why this board hates him
You see, the typical white southern sec fan thinks they "own" black players and have a right to keep them on the SEC plantations
The rules against summer camps is essentially a fugitive slave law
Harbaugh and Meyer are basically Harriet Tubman and white Southern fans do not like that
They view 4 and 5 star black players as their property
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