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re: Did Rocky Marciano make Jersey Joe Quit?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 1:31 pm to JackDempsey
Posted on 5/29/23 at 1:31 pm to JackDempsey
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Rocky's knockout of Jersey Joe in the first fight is probably the most famous knockout in boxing history. It happened quickly and violently and made a huge impact on the legacy of Marciano.
What made that KO so dramatic is the fact Rocky was well behind on all the scorecards when he hit Walcott with that thunderous right.
That punch had him eventually face-plant into the canvas after squatting with his left arm tangled up in the ropes.
The well-timed picture of that punches effect on Walcott's face only added to the legendary power of Rocky when he connected clean.
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:14 pm to gumbo2176
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What made that KO so dramatic is the fact Rocky was well behind on all the scorecards when he hit Walcott with that thunderous right.
That punch had him eventually face-plant into the canvas after squatting with his left arm tangled up in the ropes.
The well-timed picture of that punches effect on Walcott's face only added to the legendary power of Rocky when he connected clean.
Jersey Joe Walcott lost 20 fights in his career. That's 20 fights, That's journeyman-type azz kickings.
Jersey Joe Walcott was 38 years old when he first fought Marciano and Rocky was 29. That is not 38 years old in our time, with our wonderful PEDs that add 10 years to your game, that's 38 years old when 28-30 years of age was in your fighting prime. And Rocky at 29 was in his prime.
Jersey Joe Walcott was not an elite, historically, great fighter. The fact that you guys are honoring this fight as Rocky's mega-fight tells you he did not fight in the golden era of the heavyweight division.
Retiring at 31 before facing Sonny Liston is still not a good look for Rocky's resume. Nobody will say it, but he didn't want any part of Liston.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:15 pm to bamameister
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Retiring at 31 before facing Sonny Liston is still not a good look for Rocky's resume. Nobody will say it, but he didn't want any part of Liston.
Patterson was more Marciano’s era than Liston but D’Amato wouldn’t let Patterson fight Marciano because he knew what would happen. Liston is a stretch to try and act like Marciano should have fought him. I don’t think there is anyone on planet earth that believes Patterson would have beaten Marciano. When Marciano retired Liston was only on his 15th pro fight. Patterson was 30-1. Marciano and Patterson should have and would have fought if not for over cautious and paranoid Cus D’Amato.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:29 pm to bamameister
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The fact that you guys are honoring this fight as Rocky's mega-fight tells you he did not fight in the golden era of the heavyweight division.
Rocky fought what was available at the time and put in front of him.
It's no secret that boxing has historically had lapses in top talent in many divisions over the years. It's not the fighters fault that there are no other potential greats campaigning in his division when at his prime.
As far as I'm concerned, boxing was in its heyday when Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler were in the welterweight and middleweight divisions and there was Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes and several others in the Heavyweight division.
Fast forward to the Klitschko's era and there's a big gap in the talent pool in the top division. It's not their fault, it's fate.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:41 pm to ronricks
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Patterson was more Marciano’s era than Liston but D’Amato wouldn’t let Patterson fight Marciano because he knew what would happen. Liston is a stretch to try and act like Marciano should have fought him.
When Marciano retired at 31 Sonny Liston was 24. The reality was that Rocky was 5'11" and he fought at 180 LBs soaking wet. Sonny Liston was 6'1" and 215 LBs. So Sonny would have been 35 LBs of muscle ahead of Rocky. He had a long reach and his brutal power made Liston the most feared man in boxing. Even Rocky could see what was coming.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:25 pm to bamameister
Liston was 14-1 when Marciano retired 
It would have been at least 2 more years before they could have realistically fought.
Compare that to Patterson who was a more realistic fight had D’Amato not been so cautious with him. Marciano could have fought Patterson and Johansson had he not retired. Liston is a stretch. Marciano was never going to have a long career his training and ballooning up between fights wouldn’t allow it. He got out at about the right time.
It would have been at least 2 more years before they could have realistically fought.
Compare that to Patterson who was a more realistic fight had D’Amato not been so cautious with him. Marciano could have fought Patterson and Johansson had he not retired. Liston is a stretch. Marciano was never going to have a long career his training and ballooning up between fights wouldn’t allow it. He got out at about the right time.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:30 pm to bamameister
Can say almost same about Tyson
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:17 pm to prplhze2000
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Can say almost same about Tyson
In Tyson's early career he was basically fighting tomato cans to get his feet wet. He had 13 fights before he met anyone with any kind of fair record in Jesse Ferguson.
Then he fought 19 more fights before getting beat by Buster Douglas in Tokyo who as a 42-1 underdog shocked the world.
After that, Tyson was mediocre at best, ran off a string of victories then lost 5 of his last 12 fights with all of them being by stoppage.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:36 pm to gumbo2176
Crazy fact: Sugar Ray Robinson had 70 pro fights before he got a title shot
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:37 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Crazy fact: Sugar Ray Robinson had 70 pro fights before he got a title shot
Actually, he didn't get his first title shot until his 76th fight. He had gone 73-1-1 when he got the shot against Tommy Bell on 12/20/46 and won a UD to take the Welterweight Title.
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