re: Did mj ever make 5 finals in a row?

Posted by Mie2cents

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:45 am to Blitzed

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Did Jordan ever lose in a final? Did Jordan ever not get finals MVP? Does Jordan hold the record for all time playoff scoring? Does Jordan have one more MVP than Lebron? Does Jordan have 9 more scoring titles? Did Lebron play for a team who retired Jordan's number? Did Lebron ever grow a pair and win a dunk contest? Was Jordan ever going to " be the next Jordan? " Not sure if all really happened or if should disregard and take MSB advice and praise LeGoat.

SPOT ON! MONEY!

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And I really do like LeBronze and I want him to win his 3rd title.

Posted by RLDSC FAN

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:49 am to ReauxlTide222

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Did Jordan ever not get finals MVP?
Yeah, tons of times.

lol wut??

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Posted by Nonetheless

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:59 am to RLDSC FAN

The years he didn't make the finals.

The thread that won't die

Posted by lsupride87

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:01 am to RLDSC FAN

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lol wut??

9 seasons out of 15 he didnt get finals mvp. So over half the time actually. Why you confused?

Posted by RLDSC FAN

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:27 am to lsupride87

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9 seasons out of 15 he didnt get finals mvp. So over half the time actually. Why you confused?

well, i'm almost certain the poster blitzed was talking about the finals that Jordan actually played in.

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Posted by Ghetto Pimp

Member since Mar 2014

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:48 pm to RLDSC FAN

ayo lemme weigh in right quick

yo check it, bron is BIGGER, FASTER AND STRONGER than MJ. These are FACTS feel me.

Posted by DrEdgeLSU

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:26 pm to RLDSC FAN

How about we just line them both up:

Michael Jordan
1985 (Career Year 1, Age 21) - LOST in First Round (Career Series Record: 0-1)
1986 (Career Year 2, Age 22) - LOST in First Round (0-2)
1987 (Career Year 3, Age 23) - LOST in First Round (0-3)
1988 (Career Year 4, Age 24, MVP) - LOST in Conference Semifinals (1-4)
1989 (Career Year 5, Age 25) - LOST in Conference Finals (3-5)
1990 (Career Year 6, Age 26) - LOST in Conference Finals (5-6)
1991 (Career Year 7, Age 27, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (9-6), Finals MVP
1992 (Career Year 8, Age 28, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (12-6), Finals MVP
1993 (Career Year 9, Age 29) - WON NBA Finals (16-6), Finals MVP
1995 (Career Year 10, Age 31) - LOST in Conference Semifinals (17-7)
1996 (Career Year 11, Age 32, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (21-7), Finals MVP -- not to mention also winning 72 regular season games
1997 (Career Year 12, Age 33) - WON NBA Finals (25-7), Finals MVP
1998 (Career Year 13, Age 34, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (29-7), Finals MVP
2002 (Career Year 14, Age 38) - Did Not Make Playoffs
2003 (Career Year 15, Age 39) - Did Not Make Playoffs

TOTALS:
2 Seasons - Did Not Make Playoffs
3 Seasons - Lost in 1st Round
2 Seasons - Lost in Conference Seminfinals
2 Seasons - Lost in Conference Finals
6 Seasons - Won NBA Title
6 NBA Finals MVP Awards
5 NBA MVP Awards

Made playoffs in all of first 13 years of career; only missed playoffs in his 2 years with Washington.

Lebron James
2004 (Career Year 1, Age 19) - Did Not Make Playoffs
2005 (Career Year 2, Age 20) - Did Not Make Playoffs
2006 (Career Year 3, Age 21) - LOST in Conference Semifinals (1-1)
2007 (Career Year 4, Age 22) - LOST in NBA Finals (4-2)
2008 (Career Year 5, Age 23) - LOST in Conference Semifinals (5-3)
2009 (Career Year 6, Age 24, MVP) - LOST in Conference Finals (7-4)
2010 (Career Year 7, Age 25, MVP) - LOST in Conference Semifinals (8-5)
2011 (Career Year 8, Age 26) - LOST in NBA Finals (11-6)
2012 (Career Year 9, Age 27, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (15-6), Finals MVP
2013 (Career Year 10, Age 28, MVP) - WON NBA Finals (19-6), Finals MVP
2014 (Career Year 11, Age 29) - LOST in NBA Finals (22-7)
2015 (Career Year 12, Age 30) - TBD - in NBA Finals (25-7)

TOTALS:
2 Seasons - Did Not Make Playoffs
0 Seasons - Lost in 1st Round
3 Seasons - Lost in Conference Semifinals
1 Season - Lost in Conference Finals
3 Seasons - Lost in NBA Finals
2 Seasons - Won NBA Title
1 Season - TBD, Made NBA finals
2 NBA Finals MVP Awards
4 NBA MVP Awards

Similarities --
- When they entered the league, neither had success leading a team anywhere. Jordan couldn't get out of the first round for 3 years; Lebron couldn't make it to the playoffs for 2.
- Both of them won a title in the 7th trip to the playoffs (this was in MJ's 7th season, Lebron's 9th)
- Both of them have won their conference 6 times.

Differences --
- After MJ's first finals appearance, he went to the NBA finals 5 out of his next 6 seasons. After Lebron's first finals appearance, it took 4 years to get back and 5 years to win it.
- Lebron has taken a team to 5 straight finals appearances. MJ never did more than 3 in a row, despite some claiming that is a technicality (YES, MJ took the Bulls to 6 straight finals appearances across 6 full seasons of play, but he did return and go to the conference semis in 1995).
- MJ never lost an NBA Finals appearance. Lebron has lost 3.
- If you look at full seasons, MJ is 6-9 in terms of winning championships vs not winning championships. Lebron is 2-9, and will either be 3-9 or 2-10 after this season. In other words, Lebron has already had as many seasons of "failure" as MJ had in his career, despite only playing 3 years more.

I know there are other similarities and differences; but these are all of the key pieces of info as it relates to the Lebron vs MJ battle being waged in reference to their playoff successes.

Posted by lsupride87

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:33 pm to DrEdgeLSU

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Differences --
- After MJ's first finals appearance, he went to the NBA finals 5 out of his next 6 seasons. After Lebron's first finals appearance, it took 4 years to get back and 5 years to win it.
- Lebron has taken a team to 5 straight finals appearances. MJ never did more than 3 in a row, despite some claiming that is a technicality (YES, MJ took the Bulls to 6 straight finals appearances across 6 full seasons of play, but he did return and go to the conference semis in 1995).
- MJ never lost an NBA Finals appearance. Lebron has lost 3.
- If you look at full seasons, MJ is 6-9 in terms of winning championships vs not winning championships. Lebron is 2-9, and will either be 3-9 or 2-10 after this season. In other words, Lebron has already had as many seasons of "failure" as MJ had in his career, despite only playing 3 years more.

I know there are other similarities and differences; but these are all of the key pieces of info as it relates to the Lebron vs MJ battle being waged in reference to their playoff successes.

There ages are different too. If you go by AGE Lebron is on pace to be just as accomplished or moreso actually

This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:33 pm

Posted by ReauxlTide222

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:44 pm to RLDSC FAN

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well, i'm almost certain the poster blitzed was talking about the finals that Jordan actually played in.

And? He tried to make the playoffs, finals, and finals MVP every year. Dude asked if he ever DIDN'T win finals MVP. Well frick, he was so bad he got beat in the first round a couple times. So obviously there are years he didn't win finals MVP. Why the hell do y'all only count years he made the finals? How does that make sense to you?

Posted by Hiphopanonymous

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Posted on 6/3/15 at 4:36 pm to ReauxlTide222

So Lebron is still on pace to match Jordan in titles. He could win or lose this year and win 2 more next year and the year after.

Posted by Ghetto Pimp

Member since Mar 2014

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:00 am to Hiphopanonymous

ayo, ima leave this link here:

LINK /

TLDR; MJ had the best supporting casts in NBA history; while Lebron has had some of the worst (especially this year)

Posted by jimithing11

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Member since Mar 2011

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:03 am to Ghetto Pimp

Did you even read that or just post it to troll?

LeBum had top 10 supporting cast talent in 2011 and still lost

Fail

Posted by shel311

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Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:49 am to jimithing11

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Did you even read that or just post it to troll?

LeBum had top 10 supporting cast talent in 2011 and still lost

Fail

Basically everyone acknowledges that massive fail on Lebron's part, so what about the rest? You ignoring the rest?

Posted by CptBengal

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:56 am to shel311

I love the bumping of threads by the LeCult to assuage their butt hurt.

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Posted by boXerrumble

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 12:29 pm to CptBengal

I think the bigger question is if Jordan goes 8 for 8 if he doesn't take the break in between the 2 3 peats.

I think a potential Bulls vs. Rockets Finals those 2 years would've been pretty awesome.

Posted by castorinho

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 12:33 pm to boXerrumble

damn didn't realize this thread reached 35 pages

Posted by ehidal1

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 12:40 pm to CptBengal

I think most of the guys that think LBJ is the GOAT never saw MJ play in his prime, or at least weren't old enough to appreciate it.

I am not a Lebron hater at all and love his game and he is likely the best ever athlete in the NBA. But MJ was just on another level with his will and determination. They are also 2 different players. The only other guy with near MJ level competitiveness is Kobe.

This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 12:41 pm

Posted by CptBengal

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Posted on 6/6/15 at 1:45 pm to ehidal1

MJ would never be caught taking sad mirror selfies...