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re: Did Curry just have the worst finals for an MVP, ever?

Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:03 am to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:03 am to
I watched him play, too. If you think that was a healthy Steph Curry, then I don't really know what else to tell you.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:04 am to
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If you think that was a healthy Steph Curry, then I don't really know what else to tell you.
His shooting sucked and he turned the ball over like crazy. That isnt an injury. His defense and movement looked fine, which would show injury
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:09 am to
You are basing bad shooting on injury. That is a logical fallacy. Steph did not look even a step slower, at all.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:16 am to
No, I'm not. His movement was limited compared to what he usually does.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:20 am to
I completely disagree. I saw the same Curry getting the same looks, just missing. And avoiding the paint after having a couple shots blocked by James.

As you said, we can just agree to disagree.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:25 am to
In spurts, sure, he was getting the same looks. By and large he was not able to create the kind of space for himself as he did all year long.

You can chalk that up as a testament to the Cavs D, too, but he didn't look like the same guy as he had all year to me.

Your assumption that he avoided the paint after Lebron blocked a couple of his shots is far more of a logical fallacy, to be fair.
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:26 am to
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The play so many are referencing is a terrible example. He had absolutely 1 and maybe 2 opportunities to go by Love. He had him beat. He was hell bound on getting that 3, though. It wasn't injury, it was poor shooting and decision making.




Love was giving Curry the lane & guarding the 3 point line with his length .

The Cavs decided they weren't about to trade 2 for 3 with the Warriors & guard the 3 pt line ,but Curry was still trying to Jack it over near 7 footers( Thompson & Love).
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:28 am to
I saw a Cavs D that stepped out on him and said if you go by me, fine. But we are going to make you do it. Then I saw him force the issue.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:30 am to
Almost like he was struggling to get around them with the same quickness he had used all year long - weird!
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:33 am to
He did get around them. That's the point. He got to his spots, got around his man and especially when there was a switch with a big on him. He just missed shots.

Provide me with 1 YouTube-able example of Steph not actually being able to get by someone. And don't mention the Love play, because he had him dead to rights, but chose to keep dribbling around to get the 3.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:40 am to
Dude, you watched the same games I did. If you didn't see what I saw, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, no worries.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:02 am to
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Almost like he was struggling to get around them with the same quickness he had used all year long - weird


Lulz. I could post still photos of Curry beating Kevin Love with a clear path to the lane twice in one possession. But he decided to keep trying to fancy dribble and jack up 3's. He did not struggle to get by Love, he struggle to shoot over Love because Love was hell bent on taking away the 3. Curry even mentioned in the post game how he should've made the correct play and gone to the basket. That isn't injury, it's dumb basketball.

Curry even had a solid look after he faked Shumpert out on his last 3pt attempt. Whatever tweak injury he was feeling doesn't make him miss that look, and if he was as injured as you think he was he shouldn't have been the one handling the ball for the last few shots. Cavs had his number and were all up in his head. Deal with it.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:12 am to
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The funny thing is, no is saying Curry's injury cost the Warriors the Finals, nor taking away the Cavs feat...it's more like LeBron's fans dismissing Curry's injuries,believing that Cleveland has Curry's number. and to a degree that might be true
The funny thing is, the one side is saying Curry's injury played a role, it was one of multipe things in play, including the Cavs D.

The other side is vehement in saying that is wrong and a discredit to the Cavs, which is silly. It's simply an explanation. Not sure how anyone would flat out deny and say nope, he was absolutely not playing injured.

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From my perspective, LeBron won this series in Game 4. Suspending Draymond was enough
Lebron won a series with his junk, something MJ has never done!!!
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:15 am to
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28/6.3/5.9 41.6% from 3 with an eFG% of .557 Still awesome, though. Sorry I dragged you into that fail, pride.
Not awesome by Curry's standards, it's a pretty sizeable amount below his shooting standards.

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:16 am to
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So yes, Steph played elite against OKC. Then, fell apart in the finals
He played well below his numbers against OKC, and even further below against CLE.

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I mean 28,6,6 eFG .557 and game score of 20.9
That's not good for Curry, it's, what, 10 points below his normal eFG%?
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:17 am to
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The funny thing is, the one side is saying Curry's injury played a role, it was one of multipe things in play, including the Cavs D.

The other side is vehement in saying that is wrong and a discredit to the Cavs, which is silly. It's simply an explanation. Not sure how anyone would flat out deny and say nope, he was absolutely not playing injured.


I think the injury angle is being given attention that's disproportiate to the extent that I think it impacted the result.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:22 am to
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That's not good for Curry, it's, what, 10 points below his normal eFG%?
It's lower, but Curry's efficiency numbers have dropped every year in the playoffs. And his numbers dropped significantly in the Finals last year.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:27 am to
I've already agreed to disagree

You responded with this

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Almost like he was struggling to get around them with the same quickness he had used all year long - weird!


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:27 am to
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He played well below his numbers against OKC, and even further below against CLE.
In the final 3 games of the OKC series, Curry averaged 32.7/7.7/7.3 and shot 47% from 3. His average game score 27.2.

Two days later, he had the worst game of the entire playoffs. Did his injury worsen on his rest days?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:45 am to
"I've heard he'll be getting multiple surgeries after the finals are over" lolololololol
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