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re: DEI has infiltrated the CFP and is why every game is over 7 point spread. Let money market

Posted on 12/14/24 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Maybe Alabama and Ole Miss shouldn’t have lost three fricking games then, bitch.


Do they lose 3 games if they play SMU or Arizona St schedule?

Of course not. You know this.
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Do they lose 3 games if they play SMU or Arizona St schedule? Of course not. You know this.


I know you didn’t list Indiana with SMU and Arizona State, but I remember this stat off the top of my head and it fits the discussion.

Indiana was 10-0 vs teams with a .500 or below record.

Bama was 3-2 vs non-winning (.500 or below) teams.

IF Bama’s three losses had been to .500 and above teams, then they would absolutely have a case that “playing a tough schedule hurt them”.

The fact is, playing a tough schedule actually HELPED Bama because, despite having three losses including one by 21-points to a 6-6 team in the penultimate week of the season, they were still in the playoff discussion. They were also likely in the playoffs but for Clemson’s upset (and the manner it happened).
Posted by LSUstudent4life
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:48 pm to
I didn’t read your post, just downvoted it
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:12 pm to
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So do Big 12, Mountain West, and ACC champions.



I’m not following. Those three teams met the stated criteria for being selected to the playoff, along with Georgia and Oregon.
I understand what the rules are, but within the context of this thread those teams would be "subjective" selections rather than "deserving" to be there.

I'm just saying that the OP presents a better way of choosing the field than by a group of puppets. Because Vegas does this kind of stuff for a living. They literally can't afford to be wrong.

As I stated earlier in this thread, these are the odds to win the title:

Boise St. 50-1
Indiana 45-1
Arizona St. 40-1
Clemson 30-1
SMU 30-1

Are you going to put money on any one of these "deserving" teams? Of course you're not. You'd be an idiot to even consider it. Because you know they have no chance of winning the title. You know it. I know it. And Vegas knows it.

Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:48 am to
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I'm just saying that the OP presents a better way of choosing the field than by a group of puppets. Because Vegas does this kind of stuff for a living. They literally can't afford to be wrong.


Vegas makes money by predicting a number that will get the public to place (relatively) equal amounts of money on a team (in a game) or teams (in terms of prop bets).

There spreads are simply reflective of public perceptions of the teams. So essentially, it’s like starting off with the premise of polling 100 college football fans and asking “who do they think would win between Alabama and Boise State”. 90% of people say Alabama. So they follow up with “do you think Alabama would beat Boise by 7? 10? 15?” Vegas has simply gotten good at guessing what that number is, so that roughly 50% of the money goes to each side.

So no, that would be an absolutely terrible was to pick the playoff teams.

The idea of the title of this thread that it’s somehow “bad” that the spreads are over 7 points is absurd. Normally HFA is considered to be worth 3 points. I’d think in college football with the playoff atmosphere, it might be a little more. You might also add in that SMU and Tennessee could be playing in conditions they don’t see as frequently as their opponents as well.

Aside from the Clemson game, this pretty much means that on a neutral field, these would all be close, one score games.

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