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Dark Side Of The Ring---XPW
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:44 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:44 am
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XPW merged Rob Black’s passions for hardcore porn and deathmatch wrestling, but after he waged a war with federal authorities his empire imploded.
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 4:31 am
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:50 am to pioneerbasketball
this shite is gonna be demonic.
for those who followed pro-wrestling during the "boom period" in the mid 90's and into the early 00's, XPW actually gained a lot of attention for about six months at the tail end of that time period... for all of the wrong reasons.
for those who followed pro-wrestling during the "boom period" in the mid 90's and into the early 00's, XPW actually gained a lot of attention for about six months at the tail end of that time period... for all of the wrong reasons.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:04 am to pioneerbasketball
Love the sport and the characters involved in it, very interesting stuff. That is just more of it, the problem there is the lack of big names being involved, no star power.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 3:06 am to Avante
They are now just profiling every random garbage promotion that existed in the 90s. The show ought to be renamed Dark Side of Trash Wrestling now.
The steroid trial episode can't get here fast enough.
They should do an entire season just on how Vince betrayed all the old timers, Including his father's wishes, and destroyed/absorbed the old territoies. To my knowledge, there has never been an in-depth recounting of how it all went down from a major outlet, and anyone associated with WWE/F will never do it.
If also like to see the history of Catch Wrestling, but that's not a topic that really fits this show.
The steroid trial episode can't get here fast enough.
They should do an entire season just on how Vince betrayed all the old timers, Including his father's wishes, and destroyed/absorbed the old territoies. To my knowledge, there has never been an in-depth recounting of how it all went down from a major outlet, and anyone associated with WWE/F will never do it.
If also like to see the history of Catch Wrestling, but that's not a topic that really fits this show.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 3:09 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 11:26 pm to pioneerbasketball
What a crazy episode. Extreme wrestiling with extreme porn and a back drop of cutting off a dude’s thumb. Challenging John Ashcroft on Nightline lulz
Posted on 10/21/21 at 11:40 pm to Jack Ruby
They are now just profiling every random garbage promotion that existed in the 90s. The show ought to be renamed Dark Side of Trash Wrestling now.
The steroid trial episode can't get here fast enough.
They should do an entire season just on how Vince betrayed all the old timers, Including his father's wishes, and destroyed/absorbed the old territoies. To my knowledge, there has never been an in-depth recounting of how it all went down from a major outlet, and anyone associated with WWE/F will never do it.
If also like to see the history of Catch Wrestling, but that's not a topic that really fits this show.
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I'm with you and would also love to read a book on how it all went down with Vince becoming what he became. I do have a book on the history of the NWA, great read.
The steroid trial episode can't get here fast enough.
They should do an entire season just on how Vince betrayed all the old timers, Including his father's wishes, and destroyed/absorbed the old territoies. To my knowledge, there has never been an in-depth recounting of how it all went down from a major outlet, and anyone associated with WWE/F will never do it.
If also like to see the history of Catch Wrestling, but that's not a topic that really fits this show.
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I'm with you and would also love to read a book on how it all went down with Vince becoming what he became. I do have a book on the history of the NWA, great read.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 11:40 pm to tigerpimpbot
IIRC Walt posted several years ago that Jessica Darlin did a scene with Peter North. But that’s none of my business.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:31 am to tigerpimpbot
I could do away with death matches.
Crazy episode.
Steroid Trial Next Week, I believe.
Crazy episode.
Steroid Trial Next Week, I believe.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:29 am to pioneerbasketball
Messiah getting his thumb cut off as part of an attempted hit is worthy of an episode.
A death match promotion run by porn directors? Less so.
Herb Abrams was worth an episode because he was obscure unless you knew about him in the 90s or read Mick Foley’s book. The absolute chaos that went on was entertaining.
Rob Black? Not worth an episode.
A death match promotion run by porn directors? Less so.
Herb Abrams was worth an episode because he was obscure unless you knew about him in the 90s or read Mick Foley’s book. The absolute chaos that went on was entertaining.
Rob Black? Not worth an episode.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:40 am to Avante
The Titan (Titan Sinking, Titan Shattered, Titan Screwed) trilogy of books covers a lot of how Vince became what he did by giving overviews of his life from birth to the steroid trial then focusing on the 1995, 1996, and 1997 years for WWE which were some of the most significant in the company’s history, not necessarily for good reason.
It’s hard to have a Dark Side episode on something like that because so many key players from Vince’s rise are now dead, including Pat Patterson, Gorilla Monsoon, Jim Barnett, Vince Sr, Jack Brisco, etc., and a number of people who are still around like Jerry Brisco are highly unlikely to talk.
A lot of the rise boils down to a few factors including the importance of cable TV in making national promotions possible (Georgia on TBS and Southwest on USA being the key ones on TV getting exposure pre-Vince) and Ole Anderson’s coup of Georgia setting the stage by chasing out Jim Barnett, who not only had major TV contacts going back to the days of the old DuMont Network but also had an intricate knowledge of who owned what out of each promotion and what it would take to do the most damage to the NWA.
Vince Sr, Vince, and Barnett famously walked out of the NWA national meeting in the very early 80s, shortly before Vince Sr died and Vince took over, as a declaration of war. Barnett setting up the purchase of shares from Georgia from the Brisco brothers and others was the coup to get WWF on TBS and, even though that was ultimately a failure, the money from selling the time slot to Jim Crockett was used to bankroll the first Wrestlemania.
It’s hard to have a Dark Side episode on something like that because so many key players from Vince’s rise are now dead, including Pat Patterson, Gorilla Monsoon, Jim Barnett, Vince Sr, Jack Brisco, etc., and a number of people who are still around like Jerry Brisco are highly unlikely to talk.
A lot of the rise boils down to a few factors including the importance of cable TV in making national promotions possible (Georgia on TBS and Southwest on USA being the key ones on TV getting exposure pre-Vince) and Ole Anderson’s coup of Georgia setting the stage by chasing out Jim Barnett, who not only had major TV contacts going back to the days of the old DuMont Network but also had an intricate knowledge of who owned what out of each promotion and what it would take to do the most damage to the NWA.
Vince Sr, Vince, and Barnett famously walked out of the NWA national meeting in the very early 80s, shortly before Vince Sr died and Vince took over, as a declaration of war. Barnett setting up the purchase of shares from Georgia from the Brisco brothers and others was the coup to get WWF on TBS and, even though that was ultimately a failure, the money from selling the time slot to Jim Crockett was used to bankroll the first Wrestlemania.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:38 am to teke184
Sex, Lies, and Headlocks is another good one too about Vince taking over and then the steroid trial (plus all the stuff with Tom Cole and Rita Chatterton).
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:40 am to teke184
They need to do one covering Heroes of Wrestling.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:46 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
I’ve read that one too and may have conflated that book with Titan Sinking because the subject matter heavily overlapped.
A lot of Vince’s rise boils down to “The industry was changing due to technology and Vince had the right people and the right plan at the right time.”
People knowing the power of cable was old at that point, as the Funks had sold out once they realized that they couldn’t be Mexican-hating heels in Los Angeles or Florida while still running their own promotion in Amarillo where they were babyfaces.
What took it to the next level was Vince being willing to take on the establishment (NWA, AWA), having the right contacts in the TV business thanks to Barnett, and knowing the right talent and markets to poach to do the most damage to the competition.
If Vince didn’t do it, Verne Gagne probably would have eventually tried simply because he had the talent roster and the territory to pull it off, he just didn’t have the mentality.
Gary Capetta wrote in his book about how Verne asked him his thoughts on the AWA TV product. Capetta basically told him “there are matches with no context as to what’s going on and there is no direction.” Verne said he didn’t know that because he didn’t watch the show, as he lived in a remote part of Minnesota that didn’t get it. When Capetta asked him why he didn’t just watch the tape at the office, Verne didn’t realize he could do that.
Just all kinds of inept shite by power players which gave Vince the opportunity to stab them in the back.
A lot of Vince’s rise boils down to “The industry was changing due to technology and Vince had the right people and the right plan at the right time.”
People knowing the power of cable was old at that point, as the Funks had sold out once they realized that they couldn’t be Mexican-hating heels in Los Angeles or Florida while still running their own promotion in Amarillo where they were babyfaces.
What took it to the next level was Vince being willing to take on the establishment (NWA, AWA), having the right contacts in the TV business thanks to Barnett, and knowing the right talent and markets to poach to do the most damage to the competition.
If Vince didn’t do it, Verne Gagne probably would have eventually tried simply because he had the talent roster and the territory to pull it off, he just didn’t have the mentality.
Gary Capetta wrote in his book about how Verne asked him his thoughts on the AWA TV product. Capetta basically told him “there are matches with no context as to what’s going on and there is no direction.” Verne said he didn’t know that because he didn’t watch the show, as he lived in a remote part of Minnesota that didn’t get it. When Capetta asked him why he didn’t just watch the tape at the office, Verne didn’t realize he could do that.
Just all kinds of inept shite by power players which gave Vince the opportunity to stab them in the back.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:47 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
I don’t think there is enough to cover there.
They already had Jake’s bit on but there isn’t a one hour episode of material from a show that meant nothing and was just an embarrassment start to finish rather than something influential, positive or negative.
They already had Jake’s bit on but there isn’t a one hour episode of material from a show that meant nothing and was just an embarrassment start to finish rather than something influential, positive or negative.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:03 am to pioneerbasketball
Maybe it's just me but this episode and the one a few weeks ago about the Japanese promotion were the worst two of the series. I'm ready for them to get back to more mainstream stuff
Posted on 10/22/21 at 12:23 pm to Corso
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Maybe it's just me but this episode and the one a few weeks ago about the Japanese promotion were the worst two of the series.
Agreed, I hope this isn't a sign of what is to come in season 4.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:16 pm to Cash
The not having an insurance surprised me.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:28 pm to pioneerbasketball
Thursday’s Dark Side of the Ring episode on Rob Black’s XPW promotion drew 109,000 viewers on Vice TV, according to Showbuzz Daily.
This is down 19.25% from last week’s episode on Luna Vachon, which drew 135,000 viewers.
Thursday’s episode on XPW drew a 0.05 rating in the 18-49 key demographic. That is down 16.66% from last week’s episode on Vachon, which drew a 0.06 key demo rating.
This is down 19.25% from last week’s episode on Luna Vachon, which drew 135,000 viewers.
Thursday’s episode on XPW drew a 0.05 rating in the 18-49 key demographic. That is down 16.66% from last week’s episode on Vachon, which drew a 0.06 key demo rating.
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