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Dallas Keuchel....Whats Wrong With Him?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:24 pm
Last year wins the cy young and is completely dominant, this year he's 3-9 with an ERA near 6. He's not hurt, he was never a power pitcher, he was never a big prospect. Was last year a fluke or is this year the fluke? He's a free agent soon, what do you pay me? Obviously even a mediocre starter gets $10m+ but the guy was a young cy young winner its quite a unique scenario.
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:25 pm to dabigfella
Not that he's terrible, but last year was the fluke IMO.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:30 pm to dabigfella
this is what happens when you dont have ace stuff. you have no margin for error
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:31 pm to dabigfella
Guys stopped swinging at the marginal pitches and he's getting less calls on them. Add to that, I believe he is fatiguing much faster after throwing 230 innings last year, he leaves the ball up and gets rocked.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:32 pm to Lester Earl
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this is what happens when you dont have ace stuff. you have no margin for error
This.
His stuff has never ace quality. Rarely does his heater hit 90 and usually hovers around 88mph.
Before last season, he was an average pitcher at best and had never been some up and scouting report stud.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:35 pm to McCaigBro69
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Before last season, he was an average pitcher at best and had never been some up and scouting report stud.
That's not entirely true, he threw 200 innings in 2014 with a 2.93 ERA, wouldn't exactly call that average
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:39 pm to texastiger38
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That's not entirely true, he threw 200 innings in 2014 with a 2.93 ERA, wouldn't exactly call that average
Ok, yeah you're right.
However, in his two seasons before that, he had an ERA of 5.00+ in 47 games.
I'd say the way he's pitching right now is more evident of the kind of player he actually is than the previous two seasons.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:46 pm to McCaigBro69
I think he's somewhere in the middle, An innings eater than gives you about a 4 run ERA.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:50 pm to texastiger38
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I think he's somewhere in the middle, An innings eater than gives you about a 4 run ERA.
That's fair. The Houston version of Colby Lewis lol.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:52 pm to dabigfella
Too early to call it a fluke. Let's see how the rest of the year unfolds.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:15 pm to texastiger38
but but but prom thinks he'll be awesome forever since he won a Cy young!!
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:27 pm to List Eater
He's left his fastball up a whole lot more this season than years past.
I imagine due to him not getting the calls on the corner anymore.
I imagine due to him not getting the calls on the corner anymore.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:35 pm to TXGunslinger10
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I imagine due to him not getting the calls on the corner anymore.
That's really the only difference I'm seeing vs last year. I'll give him the rest of the year and maybe some of next. We need a bigger sample size post Cy, IMO.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:35 pm to dabigfella
His location is poor this year and he's decided he needs to throw his shitty cutter more often.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:57 pm to List Eater
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Too early to call it a fluke. Let's see how the rest of the year unfolds.
Nah, I'm pretty confident that it was a fluke
Posted on 6/12/16 at 10:04 pm to dabigfella
The entire season was a fluke for Houston last year.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:02 am to dabigfella
Simple really. He got paid
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:10 am to dabigfella
He's walking more batters than the last two years, and giving up more fly balls that are turning into home runs. Probably a result of not keeping the ball down. His FIP is only 3.81 as well, with a BABIP against him of .340, indicating some bad luck so far this season.
I would bet that fatigue has a lot to do with it. 200 IP in 2014, then 232 plus playoffs last year. Some guys can do that year after year, but some guys' arms wear down.
I would bet that fatigue has a lot to do with it. 200 IP in 2014, then 232 plus playoffs last year. Some guys can do that year after year, but some guys' arms wear down.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:37 am to SonOfABayouBandit426
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Simple really. He got paid
except he didn't 
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:41 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Ehhh i know he didn't get "paid" paid, but $7.25M is a pretty sweet jump from $525K
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