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re: Dad of UCLA QB criticizes Chip Kelly
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:39 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:39 pm to LanierSpots
My point is you can't hold it against him. If you win 10+ every year, and are middling against highly ranked opponents, you are a great coach
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:39 pm to genro
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Malzahn is 7-9 against the Top 10
What does that have to do with this conversation? I am not comparing the two. Gus has his issues. But he also has 3 wins against #1 ranked Teams. Does Chip have that since we are comparing?
We will see how he does at UCLA. My guess is he gets bored of not doing well and not having the bank to help with recruiting and he leaves there with a burning turd left behind
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:40 pm to genro
this board and chip kelly 
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:41 pm to LanierSpots
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But he also has 3 wins against #1 ranked Teams
Are these rankings during or after the season?
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:42 pm to LSUintheNW
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Are these rankings during or after the season?
At time of the game. I know one was #1 at the end of the season and one was #2. Not sure about Bama 2013.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:43 pm to WestCoastAg
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this board and chip kelly
I have never been involved with a thread about Chip on this board. I was merely looking for answers.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:45 pm to genro
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Oregon in the 100 years before Chip Kelly: nothing
Oregon under Chip Kelly: perennial double-digit wins
Ah hell nah you did NOT forget about Joey Harrington
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:48 pm to LanierSpots
You know that Chip Kelly won a ton of games at a program that had never been better than average. You know they were a national power. You said he failed everywhere and had no accomplishments. Basically, if they had blown the whistle on that crazy Michael Dyer play, Chip Kelly would be a great coach. Apparently that's the difference.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:49 pm to S
quote:I remember a lot of hype, a billboard in Times Square, and then the entire country laughing
Ah hell nah you did NOT forget about Joey Harrington
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:53 pm to genro
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You know that Chip Kelly won a ton of games at a program that had never been better than average
the belotti era, which came before chip, never happen?
12 bowls in 14 years my imagination? 1 less pac10 title than kelly.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:55 pm to SeeeeK
quote:That sounds pretty average.
12 bowls in 14 years my imagination?
I correct it. They are a historically below average program. Bellotti got them to average
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:55 pm to SeeeeK
How many 10 win seasons for each?
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:00 pm to genro
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Basically, if they had blown the whistle on that crazy Michael Dyer play, Chip Kelly would be a great coach.
Why would they blow the whistle on a play that was not down. And what makes you think Oregon wins if they did? You are grasping for bullshite now.
He is a good coach but he no not accomplished a huge thing that would make him the most sought after coach. He was good at beating the Pac12 while at Oregon where he had a huge cash flow and could recruit basically who he wanted. He did not do well against out of conference ranked teams. He failed in the NFL and currently is not doing great, though its early, at UCLA. All are valid points
If the refs would have blown a play down that was not down is not a valid point
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:02 pm to LanierSpots
quote:like saban?
He failed in the NFL
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:04 pm to LanierSpots
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You are grasping for bullshite now.
quote:Based on 'accomplishments' who would be more accomplished and sought after? You got 4 current coaches who have won a national title - Saban, Meyer, Dabo and Jimbo. That's it. None of them were going to UCLA. So who?
but he no not accomplished a huge thing that would make him the most sought after coach.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:07 pm to LanierSpots
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and could recruit basically who he wanted.
bullshite...recruiting top flight players consistently was a struggle still.
He missed out on O/D lineman constantly. They missed out on top flight linebackers constantly.
Every time Chip faced the OSU's of the world he had less talent across the board.
Eta...I think his best recruiting class was #13 but hexwas typically between 15-20.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:16 pm to WestCoastAg
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He failed in the NFL
like saban?
Sure. I think that is accurate.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:18 pm to genro
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Based on 'accomplishments' who would be more accomplished and sought after? You got 4 current coaches who have won a national title - Saban, Meyer, Dabo and Jimbo. That's it. None of them were going to UCLA. So who?
Thats fair.
Like I said, lets see how he does at UCLA.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:18 pm to LanierSpots
Not really. Saban wasn’t fired
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:23 pm to LSUintheNW
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Eta...I think his best recruiting class was #13 but hexwas typically between 15-20.
His 3 recruiting classes on 247 were below. I didnt count 2009 because he arrived there right at signing day
You were pretty close but he did well with recruiting at Oregon with the NIKE machine behind him
2010 - Ranked 12 - 3rd in Pac behind USC and UCLA
2011 - Ranked 12 - 2nd in the Pac 12 behind USC
2012 - Ranked 14 - 3rd in Pac 12 behind USC and Stanford
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 5:24 pm
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