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re: D Wade's game need to evolve

Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:03 am to
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:03 am to
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b/c he plays the 4/5 for the heat and it means he isn't going to be around for boards

.... The Heat don't really go for offensive rebounds anyway. Spurs, Heat, Celtics all put a priority on getting back on defense as opposed to getting Offensive rebounds. Regardless of that, do you have any idea how few rebounds are really being affected by that? Like 1-2 a game. Do you have any idea how much more valuable it is to have a big that can space the floor and bring the opposing bigs out of the paint? What Bosh does is invaluable to the Heat. Not all basketball is about bigs rebounding. There are other ways to play.


edit: After reading more responses, I'm convinced the majority of you did not watch the Heat during the regular season when Wade was still healthy.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 11:06 am
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32952 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:03 am to
op just used d wade and jordan in the same sentence. I've seen it all on the MSB now
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:06 am to
They were leaving James wide open from 3 and he wasn't even thinking about shooting them last night on numerous occasions. That little lack of confidence, is one of his flaws IMO. Lebron, can shoot threes with almost anyone, he needs to think the next one is going in even if he is off.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
5060 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:06 am to
Bron and Wade both need to work on just catching and shooting as if they're wide open, because this series they have been.

You can tell they're both way more comfortable shooting fall aways off the dribble with someone guarding them tightly as opposed to just being wide open which is kind of crazy.

Notice when Lebron is wide open and shoots a jumper, he's still leaning back like someone is guarding him. At one point last night i think Wade caught it for a wide open mid range shot, dribbled in a couple steps to square up the defender only to take a step back jumper to the original spot he caught it. He made the shot with a hand in his face.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14710 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:06 am to
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b/c he isn't spreading the floor out

TRUTH

heat are almost unstoppable when spreading the floor and moving the ball
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84472 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:07 am to
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You can tell they're both way more comfortable shooting fall aways off the dribble with someone guarding them tightly as opposed to just being wide open which is kind of crazy.



Kobe's the same way.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:09 am to
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edit: After reading more responses, I'm convinced the majority of you did not watch the Heat during the regular season when Wade was still healthy.


I know Wade can still drive with the best of them when healthy.....right now. He is always banged up at the end of the season though. He is getting older. Just makes sense that the style he plays will need to change if he wants to go another 5 or 6 years.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33214 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:09 am to
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IMO, he already has a nice mid range jumper. At times he doesn't miss it. He just needs to really develop the consistency there.

This.

Lebron drives and kicks to Wade for an open 3, Wade fakes and drives right to where Lebron just was. He either needs to shoot (and make consistently) the 3 or Lebron needs to just take the shot in the paint
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:10 am to
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op just used d wade and jordan in the same sentence. I've seen it all on the MSB now


Get your tongue out of MJ's arsehole daze. Wade's style is similar to MJs. No one is saying he as good as MJ was.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5362 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:11 am to
I don't know if you can say he has a great mid range jumper.

The spurs have given him a cushion and are daring him to take that shot all series and he is not making them like an elite player should.
Posted by SomeTigerFan
Over there
Member since Oct 2012
3232 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:13 am to
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jturn17

Jesus fricking christ dude, no one is fricking bashing Bosh, we're more disappointed in Lebron and Wade that we trust Bosh over them to shoot midrange jumpers. Gtfo with your righteous "you dont watch games" BS.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:13 am to
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The spurs have given him a cushion and are daring him to take that shot all series and he is not making them like an elite player should


I know. That is what made me post this. Against the Mavs in 06 he murdered them with that Jumper. If they tried to guard it, he drove to the basket. Right now, he is just trying to go to the basket without even developing himself as a threat to make that shot.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5362 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:16 am to
Maybe he knows that was seven years ago and he just simply doesn't have a jump shot like he used to. That's all that really can explain his driving in on the cushion he's getting.

I know you think wade should evolve but maybe he just is not a good jump shooter anymore and he knows it.

I hope you weren't counting on him evolving in one day either. Whatever his issue has been its lingering. Look at the stats of Lebrun with wade and not. Lb is better without him at this point.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 11:23 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:29 am to
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Maybe he knows that was seven years ago and he just simply doesn't have a jump shot like he used to. That's all that really can explain his driving in on the cushion he's getting.

I know you think wade should evolve but maybe he just is not a good jump shooter anymore and he knows it.


Wade has stretches NOW when that shot is going in every time. He hasn't lost his shot. I think his confidence in taking it is obviously down though.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28962 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:29 am to
Wade is fine i think when he cleans up his injury he will return to form. No not like when he was 23 but he will still be a top 10 player.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:30 am to
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Wade is fine i think when he cleans up his injury he will return to form. No not like when he was 23 but he will still be a top 10 player.


He is probably still a top 5 player when 100%. Its just he can't stay healthy with his style.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41307 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:36 am to
he shouldn't have flopped his entire career. has to take a toll on the body.


look at what flopping has done to ginobli
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:37 am to
every star in the NBA flops now.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Wade is fine i think when he cleans up his injury he will return to form. No not like when he was 23 but he will still be a top 10 player.


Would be nice. I just do not think he ever returns to top 10 status.

He was about the most reckless and fearless player in the NBA for many years. It has caught up to him the past few years, along with losing some explosiveness as he ages.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41307 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:40 am to
not every star is in their 30s w/ bad knees. he should quit flopping to the ground so much.
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