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re: Cutler: 7 years, $126 Million, $54 Guaranteed
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:25 pm to Sophandros
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:25 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Today's production of Small Sample Size Theater is sponsored by Fox Mulder.
Never had a QB rating above 12th in his entire career...and that was six years ago in another uniform. But yeah, we can keep the "Jay Cutler is a good QB" narrative going and let 104 career start "sample size" get a little larger.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:27 pm to brgfather129
sample size is a two way street. BTW, 30 is the minimum for sample sizes, the problem is that the NFL shits all over statistics because of the interdependent variables and constant change in the league
mccown has looked good in places that are not chicago, and he didn't have 1/10th of the talent surrounding him that he had in chicago...he's an average qb, but so is cutler...and mccown isn't the one signing a $126 million contract
mccown has looked good in places that are not chicago, and he didn't have 1/10th of the talent surrounding him that he had in chicago...he's an average qb, but so is cutler...and mccown isn't the one signing a $126 million contract
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:30 pm to Nonetheless
quote:
Good move by the bears.
I'm willing to be talked into it but you're going to have to do at least an A- or B+ level sales job convincing me.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:36 pm to Walking the Earth
the sales pitch chicago is giving themselves and their fans...
"well, we didn't have anyone else...were we supposed to let him walk"
parting ways is rarely an option that is not on the table
5 or 6 guys have that kind of leverage and jay cutler is not one of them.
"well, we didn't have anyone else...were we supposed to let him walk"
parting ways is rarely an option that is not on the table
5 or 6 guys have that kind of leverage and jay cutler is not one of them.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:38 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Today's production of Small Sample Size Theater is sponsored by Fox Mulder
Josh McCown, the 34 year old journeyman QB, throws up a few good games and all of a sudden he's an above average QB? C'mon!
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:40 pm to DelU249
quote:Where exactly did he ever look like a good, or even average player?
mccown has looked good in places that are not chicago
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:41 pm to shel311
30 is the minimum sample size, mccown has started 38...I am going to find out his rating in starts, and like i said the sample size is bullshite to a large degree because of how interdependent things are and how things change wildly in just a year.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:43 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:45 pm to lsuin92
mccown has a career rating 7 less than cutler and he has played on some dog shite teams. anyone who saw mccown in tampa knows he is a capable qb.
all you can judge is what they did with the same team. This team has only been together this year. No sample size helps here...mccown outplayed cutler and yes, he had the biggest cupcake defense in the NFL as one of his starts but he played well in all of his starts.
all you can judge is what they did with the same team. This team has only been together this year. No sample size helps here...mccown outplayed cutler and yes, he had the biggest cupcake defense in the NFL as one of his starts but he played well in all of his starts.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:49 pm to DelU249
let's not delude ourselves either. If mccown were 24, cutler is wearing another uniform
I guess trestman doesn't want to risk his job finding another qb, which he would have ample time to do and thus room for failure.
I guess trestman doesn't want to risk his job finding another qb, which he would have ample time to do and thus room for failure.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:50 pm to DelU249
quote:That amount of points is basically the difference between average and a top 7-8 type QB. And if you give McCown the crap teams excuse, you gotta give Cutler the excuse of having quite a few years of terrible Olines as well.
mccown has a career rating 7 less than cutler and he has played on some dog shite teams
quote:Are you getting your McCown QBs mixed up? Hell, am I getting my McCown Qbs mixed up?
anyone who saw mccown in tampa knows he is a capable qb.
quote:Matt Flynn had the GOAT game for a Packers Qb. 1 game vs 8 games, yes. But where do you draw the line there?
all you can judge is what they did with the same team. This team has only been together this year. No sample size helps here...mccown outplayed cutler and yes, he had the biggest cupcake defense in the NFL as one of his starts but he played well in all of his starts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:52 pm to DelU249
quote:Well of course because the 24 year would likely have this 8 game sample size of awesomeness, so we wouldn't already know that he's no better than a journeyman QB.
let's not delude ourselves either. If mccown were 24, cutler is wearing another uniform
quote:Would he have ample time if McCown played like he's played every year of his career except 2013? No chance, he'd be canned within 2 years.
I guess trestman doesn't want to risk his job finding another qb, which he would have ample time to do and thus room for failure
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:52 pm to DelU249
quote:
anyone who saw mccown in tampa knows he is a capable qb.
ummm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:53 pm to DelU249
That would be Luke McCown who was in Tampa and actually tossed passes.
You can't just hitch your horse to Josh McCown (34+ and 1 good fluke year) and then hope to find a QB through the draft. Just because Russell Wilson happened, doesn't mean your will find success all the time. You could end up like Minny, Cle, or J-ville and just whiff a lot on QB's and be stuck in neutral.
You can't just hitch your horse to Josh McCown (34+ and 1 good fluke year) and then hope to find a QB through the draft. Just because Russell Wilson happened, doesn't mean your will find success all the time. You could end up like Minny, Cle, or J-ville and just whiff a lot on QB's and be stuck in neutral.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:54 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:LOL, that's about what he's worth. 54 dollars.
$54 Guaranteed
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:55 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Wrong McCown. The one who played in Tampa is Brees's backup for now.
Fox gonna Fox.Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:59 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Dumb bears
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:59 pm to LNCHBOX
5.56 Net Yards per Attempt vs. 6.39 for their careers...
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:03 pm to Sophandros
EXACTLY, I knew I enjoyed your posting for a reason Soph.
This is pretty telling as NYA accounts for all the sacks that Cutler has taken, and he STILL comes out ahead of Josh McCown.
And I'm guessing that Fox got a A in prob/stats but didn't actually take any of it to heart, as the first lesson is make sure you are looking at the right data set for the issue when you are doing analysis.
This is pretty telling as NYA accounts for all the sacks that Cutler has taken, and he STILL comes out ahead of Josh McCown.
And I'm guessing that Fox got a A in prob/stats but didn't actually take any of it to heart, as the first lesson is make sure you are looking at the right data set for the issue when you are doing analysis.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 3:04 pm
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