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re: Cowherd Speaks the truth

Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:35 am to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24922 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:35 am to
Your perspective of the PAC-10 is whacked.

Oregon and Oregon St. on the level of LSU?

I'm guessing you're saying Oregon and Oregon St. are second and third behind USC?

LSU is fourth or fifth best in the SEC this year, but won the NC last year. What did Oregon and Oregon St. do last year or for the last decade?

Your comparisons are similar to the way they set up the bowl matchups. Another conferences runner up or third best against our third to fifth best. That way the game stays competitive.

I would take LSU on a neutral field versus Oregon and Oregon St. all day, BTW.

On a par with Arizona and Cal? Wow, one year of losing to three teams in the top 5 or 10 in the nation and we're on a par with a team we arse raped two years ago.

Your credibility is dropping like the Dow.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21631 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:35 am to
Back to the original point of this thread. A west coast USC homer on ESPN tries to convince me that the SEC is garbage while being yet another ESPN fluffer boy to USC? SHOCKING, I tell ya.

Yet another reason that I avoid insipid tripe like Gameday and refuse to listen to sports talk radio.

Spout off all you want, SEC haters. Just remember that in what's universally considered an "off" year for the SEC, one SEC team is #1 and another is a legitimate NC contender.

I've always said that a sure sign of success is wannabes saying how terrible you are.

So, in conclusion...A TOAST TO THE HATERS...may we keep you whining like little bitches for years to come.
This post was edited on 11/18/08 at 11:39 am
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:42 am to
No Oregon and Oregon St. are not on the same level as LSU. They are better. Plain and simple and if you removed your purple and gold glasses you would see that.

Give Oregon or Oregon St LSU's schedule and they would both perform much better.
Posted by Excelsior
USA
Member since Aug 2008
1663 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:42 am to
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I'm guessing you're saying Oregon and Oregon St. are second and third behind USC?


Oregon was a torn muscle away from an NC last year.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:51 am to
Last season, when healty Oregon was the best team in college football. Wasn't just Dixon who went down though. THey lost their top 3 QB's, Jeremiah Johnson, and 2 of their top-3 recievers.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12909 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:05 pm to
LMAO@PacTen and their fans. Do they really want to compare the PacOne and the SEC. You've got to be kidding me. USC is awesome. No doubt about that. They can win in any conference but the pacten is a joke.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:08 pm to
does joke=winning record vs the SEC this decade? SEC has all the hype and is the media darling, but on the football field the PAC-10 as proven to be better head to head.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216451 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:13 pm to
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Oregon and Oregon St. are on a level up from LSU


You are just plain STUPID!!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216451 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

No Oregon and Oregon St. are not on the same level as LSU. They are better. Plain and simple and if you removed your purple and gold glasses you would see that.

Give Oregon or Oregon St LSU's schedule and they would both perform much better



I am NOT an LSU homer,But I am losing alot of repect for your football IQ!!!!!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216451 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:15 pm to
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Oregon was a torn muscle away from an NC last year.


AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:21 pm to
We'll coming from a guy who thinks Tebow will be a 1st rounder I take that with a grain of salt.

Face facts Oregon or Oregon St would not struggle with the poor teams that LSU has, and would have a good chance of winning at least 1 out of home games vs. Georgia and Bama. Odds are that both Oregon St and Oregon would win 1 vs those 2 at home.

The Sagarin predictor has Oregon St. ranked 11, and they are undefeated at home. Oregon's only home loss is where their Qb was knocked out the game vs Boise St.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21631 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:23 pm to
A USC fan griping about someone else being a media darling. That's like Barney Frank trying to lecture me on financial accountability.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24922 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:27 pm to
I'm going to give you a chance at being competent enough to reply, but your friend has lost me.

It was a torn ligament, not muscle.

LSU played with an injured QB for much of last season, and played without him twice, including their championship game. In that game, their backup sustained a cut finger on his throwing hand that required multiple stitches.

We still won the game and the NC. What happened to Oregon when Dixon went down? They couldn't get a fricking first down and last time I checked, Dixon didn't play on defense.

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

but on the football field the PAC-10 as proven to be better head to head.


Another excellent point.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110887 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:28 pm to
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Talking USC/SEC.


Sort of silly comparison: one team vs. a conference.

How badass a team could you put together if you took the best players from the South and put them on ONE TEAM, with all other schools having to compete for the dregs?
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12909 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

does joke=winning record vs the SEC this decade? SEC has all the hype and is the media darling, but on the football field the PAC-10 as proven to be better head to head.


why is that only pacten fans think the pacten is any good? i doubt anyone outside the west coast would agree with you. how many pacten teams been ranked for consecutive weeks? I don't get into speculative argurements like who would beat who. but do you really think the rest of the pacten would have a winning record in the sec? come on man...u wanna talk about homers?
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:29 pm to
It was not just Dixon who went down, it was their top-3 QB's. They had to play guys who were getting no reps in practice. A huge difference.

The results of practice time were clearly evident when Oregon destroyed South Florida in their bowl game.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12909 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:29 pm to
USC beating Ark two years ago and Ore losing Dixon is the only arguements pacten fans have? this is beyond silly.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13247 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:30 pm to
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How badass a team could you put together if you took the best players from the South and put them on ONE TEAM, with all other schools having to compete for the dregs?
You have one: It's Alabama.

Florida's players are better, but they come from all over.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12909 posts
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:30 pm to
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It was not just Dixon who went down, it was their top-3 QB's. They had to play guys who were getting no reps in practice. A huge difference.

The results of practice time were clearly evident when Oregon destroyed South Florida in their bowl game.


u think Ore was the only team had injuries? good teams have depth. LSU was a badly banged up team the end of last season.
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