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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:05 am to Moustache
Florida had it going both ways. When they had Rhett and Jackson, their offense was unstoppable. They could run it down your throat and throw it. People seem to forget that those guys each went for over 1000.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:06 am to sms151t
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So yes because it has been done recently. Alabama LSU, UGA, all run/ran the I.
but they aren't running the TO out of it. The TO the OP specifically referenced is a QB under center, first option dive up the middle, then a run out option wiht the QB/RB. Throwing less than 10 passes per game.
No major team besides tech is running that that I know of. UGA or alabama or whoever else you mentioned running 2 or 3 similar plays out of the I formation isn't the same. Not even close.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:07 am to Moustache
They used G and counter. They also would use the Wing Back in motion across formations a lot to get you to slide. The key to stopping NU was stopping the dive. If you stopped the dive they would start with the toss. I never understood why they never went to Counter or Gut like the Redskins. Especially when they had the "We Backs" and Phillips. But they did not need to usually.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:09 am to WG_Dawg
Crouch and Frost ran the TO out of the Single Wing. They werent always under Center. Frazier was under Center 95% of time.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:09 am to WG_Dawg
Navy runs it.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:09 am to KosmoCramer
I know, I said major team.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:10 am to WG_Dawg
They are in the CFP discussion. I'd say that makes them major.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:10 am to KosmoCramer
Navy's version is so advanced. They will change splits in the middle of a drive and then change the way they block everything every other drive.
Navy is fun to watch if they start tinkering with you.
Navy is fun to watch if they start tinkering with you.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:10 am to WG_Dawg
There are plenty of kids to get to play qb and I would argue it's easier to find an option qb than one to successfully run a pro offense. (See lsu and Uga struggles at qb the past two years)
Wrs are a dime a dozen and it's not important to recruit a stud there if you run the option. You could get away with some 3 stars like josh smith at Tennessee and josh Reynolds at tamu.
I think oline would not be a problem. Nebraska out plenty in the pros. So did uf and auburn and Arkansas. Spread option that most teams run today don't really prepare the linemen any better. There would be some negative recruiting though.
Tech had their best season last year. I'm not sure how you call it "figured out". Their problem is lack of talent, which is what gt always struggled with.
Wrs are a dime a dozen and it's not important to recruit a stud there if you run the option. You could get away with some 3 stars like josh smith at Tennessee and josh Reynolds at tamu.
I think oline would not be a problem. Nebraska out plenty in the pros. So did uf and auburn and Arkansas. Spread option that most teams run today don't really prepare the linemen any better. There would be some negative recruiting though.
Tech had their best season last year. I'm not sure how you call it "figured out". Their problem is lack of talent, which is what gt always struggled with.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:13 am to KosmoCramer
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They are in the CFP discussion. I'd say that makes them major.
omg dude cmon...navy is not a major football program. 8 weeks into 2007 USF was ranked #2..are they a major program?
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:15 am to WG_Dawg
They're in the Group of 5. Close enough.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:16 am to Moustache
Ohio States jet motion option is the perfect combination of the option with the ability to provide balance.. The way they ran that offense down the stretch last year is close to perfection.
I dont believe an under center triple option could work full time in the power 5.. You could get the occasional core grouping but the punishment and speed would take its toll.
I dont believe an under center triple option could work full time in the power 5.. You could get the occasional core grouping but the punishment and speed would take its toll.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:18 am to Moustache
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(See lsu and Uga struggles at qb the past two years)
LSU adn UGA have also produced aaron murray, matt stafford, david greene, dj shockley, mett, jamarcus, etc. Tech has produced, well...ummmm....
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Wrs are a dime a dozen
yeah obviously you can pluck a WR from anywhere, but your blue chippers aren't going to come if you throw it 5 times per game. The quesiton posed by the OP was asking if a bama/lsu/uga/etc ran this ofefnse. The AJ Green, julio, jarvis landry, etcs of the world wouldn't be coming anymore if you ran the TO.
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I think oline would not be a problem.
how many GT or Navy OL are in the league right now from the last 7 years?
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So did uf and auburn and Arkansas.
those teams don't run the triple option...
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Tech had their best season last year. I'm not sure how you call it "figured out".
After PJ's first 2 years, when people still weren't acclimated with it yet, they have gone:
6-7
8-5
7-7
7-6
11-3
and are currently 3-7 with miami and uga still left
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Their problem is lack of talent, which is what gt always struggled with.
and if bama/uga/lsu converted the TO offense that tech runs, they wouldn't continue getting top 5 classes either.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:20 am to WG_Dawg
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Navy OL are in the league right now
They sort of have an obligation to perform after they graduate but I agree with your point. Navy's OL are generally undersized chop blockers.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:22 am to VABuckeye
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Navy's OL are generally undersized chop blockers.
that's what tech's offense does, pretty much every single play. Cut block that is. Dive at the dude's legs and take them out. A great/elite OL isn't going to go to a TO school.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:30 am to WG_Dawg
Except uf and auburn ran the triple option and had 1st rd olinemen produced.
Plus Nebraska had several first rd ol. I think they are different from tech's offense. Nebraska even threw the ball enough to keep defenses honest.
Plus Nebraska had several first rd ol. I think they are different from tech's offense. Nebraska even threw the ball enough to keep defenses honest.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:36 am to Moustache
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Except uf and auburn ran the triple option
dude. No they don't. Not anytime recently anyway.
Running a spread or an I with some elements of the option incorporated into it for a couple plays is NOT what tech runs. You specifically referenced tech in the OP, who runs a bonafide triple option. If you simply wanted to say a spread option to include recnet sec teams you shoudl have specified.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:40 am to WG_Dawg
The jet sweep with read option that Auburn almost exclusively ran is triple option no matter how you slice it.
Also, the read option with the naked screen to the WR that they ran is a version of the triple option. The pitch man is just flexed out wide instead of in the backfield.
Also, the read option with the naked screen to the WR that they ran is a version of the triple option. The pitch man is just flexed out wide instead of in the backfield.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:43 am to VABuckeye
Navy does not chop block, they cut block. Every school and team in the country cut blocks.
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