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re: CFP expansion stalls as conference commissioners 'didn't even come close' to an agreement
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:53 pm to sms151t
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:53 pm to sms151t
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So you’re saying when the upsets happen the margin is wide, just like when the higher seed wins?
Sometimes the lower seed is favored over the higher seed. Case in point, the 2018 Sugar Bowl. #1 Clemson was an underdog against #4 Alabama and lost 24-6.
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:55 pm to RollTide1987
So now we are back to Vegas determining playoff entries?
I can’t keep up anymore
I can’t keep up anymore
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:56 pm to sms151t
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So now we are back to Vegas determining playoff entries?
You're a fool if you don't think the committee members ask whether or not Team A can beat Team B in a neutral site game. Vegas odds no doubt are discussed.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:57 pm to sms151t
Just put it at 12 All Conference Winners in determined by how conference decides and 2 at larges or make it 24 like the NCAA bylaws dictate championships be played
Only show committee seedlings 1 time at start of tournament
Play it out
Only show committee seedlings 1 time at start of tournament
Play it out
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:57 pm to RollTide1987
as a degenerate gambler I want 6+6
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:03 pm to RollTide1987
You’re a fool to think they use Vegas
They’ve discussed how they put teams in.
They’ve discussed how they put teams in.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:10 pm to chalmetteowl
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The problem with expanding to 12 is that, with the SEC’s success, if the field goes to 12, the SEC needs to be guaranteed 4 teams in.
good chance 3 of the final 4 would be SEC teams
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:20 pm to Bench McElroy
8 would be so damn easy to do.
4 highest ranked Conference Champions = 4 at large teams.
1st Round could be played at higher seeded teams OR... the Top 2 seeds could get home playoff games.
4 highest ranked Conference Champions = 4 at large teams.
1st Round could be played at higher seeded teams OR... the Top 2 seeds could get home playoff games.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:24 pm to wheelz007
Here's what some aren't understanding...
Instead of having 6-8 teams that would have a chance to get in, now you'd have alot more teams with a shot.
You would have a different mix of teams making it too. Over a 4 or 5 year period there would be a number of teams that would get in once or twice over that span. Which might help balance recruiting.
The ones who oppose it likely recognize the consequences of expansion.... i.e - when more teams have access, the wealth gets spread out more.
Instead of having 6-8 teams that would have a chance to get in, now you'd have alot more teams with a shot.
You would have a different mix of teams making it too. Over a 4 or 5 year period there would be a number of teams that would get in once or twice over that span. Which might help balance recruiting.
The ones who oppose it likely recognize the consequences of expansion.... i.e - when more teams have access, the wealth gets spread out more.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:30 pm to sms151t
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So you’re saying when the upsets happen the margin is wide, just like when the higher seed wins?
I am saying that with an average margin of victory of 3 TDs that adding more teams will just mean more blowouts.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:42 pm to dj30
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Or it could mean the committee does a shitty job of picking the 4 teams.
Came here to basically say this.
I think the committee is struggling to get the right 4 teams in.
When you only put in 4... any mistake is glorified.
If you put in 8 or 12, you have more room for error.
It also lets teams get more experience, which will help in the longer run.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:45 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I'd bet my house is 80% of the holdup is the other conferences wanting to restrict the number of schools from a single conference being allowed in it and the SEC saying frick that noise.
I'd bet your house that the holdup is related to the SEC, but more with OU and Texas dealing behind the Big 12's back with the SEC. A commissioner of a conference isn't going to just forget that. I don't blame him or the Big 12 for trying to stall as long as possible to get the best deal for their conference.
This inevitably ends up with at least 8, which makes sense if you're going to keep 5 P5 conferences. If you go down to 4, I say keep the playoffs at 4
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:16 pm to Buckeye06
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you're going to keep 5 P5 conferences. If you go down to 4, I say keep the playoffs at 4
They don’t decide which conferences are “Power” conferences… the TV deals do
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:20 pm to Bench McElroy
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Bowlsby said the committee, made up of the 10 FBS conference commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, "didn't even get close" to reaching unanimity.
There’s no reason to have all 10 FBS conference commissioners in the room.
P5 schools need to go ahead and break away.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Good, 4 is too many
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:22 pm to Ghost of Colby
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There’s no reason to have all 10 FBS conference commissioners in the room.
P5 schools need to go ahead and break away.
No reason for ND to have a rep their either.
They want to play they need to join a conference. Otherwise they get what they get and they'll like it.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:57 pm to Bench McElroy
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The lack of consensus this week decreases the likelihood the Playoff will expand from its current format of four teams before the current TV contract expires in 2026.
It's 4 years away Bob, maybe you should go be a transsexual volleyball commissioner instead
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:15 pm to udtiger
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4 is plenty. Since the playoff started, very few semifinal games have been remotely close. it would be markedly worse with more teams
I think if they expanded to 12, half of the early round games might actually be pretty good. Like the 4/9, 5/8 and 6/7 games would be good evenly matched teams. But none would have a legit shot at winning the title.
there would still only be 2 teams that have a legit shot at the title.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:16 pm to TheAstroTiger
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. Upsets happen all the time.
Not in the first round of the CFB playoff.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:27 pm to wheelz007
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Instead of having 6-8 teams that would have a chance to get in, now you'd have alot more teams with a shot.
You would have a different mix of teams making it too. Over a 4 or 5 year period there would be a number of teams that would get in once or twice over that span. Which might help balance recruiting.
Exactly. More eyeballs more excitement across the country
The bowl games would have better matchups with less opt outs
Other programs get more experience being in the “big games” so it’s not a once in a decade shot like it is now for most
And more games with less prep time could lead to more upsets
All of this would be an upgrade over the current model of boring bullshite.
Otherwise, go back to 2 and let’s have fun and debate
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 6:29 pm
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