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CFP expansion stalls as conference commissioners 'didn't even come close' to an agreement
Posted by Bench McElroy on 1/10/22 at 2:28 pm
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The latest meeting on College Football Playoff expansion ended without a resolution on Monday, as the CFP management committee could not come to an agreement on a format, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. The lack of consensus this week decreases the likelihood the Playoff will expand from its current format of four teams before the current TV contract expires in 2026.
Bowlsby said the committee, made up of the 10 FBS conference commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, "didn't even get close" to reaching unanimity.
"There’s some possibility (of expanding the Playoff during the current contract) but it gets to be a smaller and smaller possibility with each passing day," said Bowlsby, who added he was disappointed with the outcome.
"There are big enough (issues) that remain that we have a lot of work to do," he said. "There's hold-outs for four, there's hold-outs for eight, there's hold-outs for 12. It's been a frustrating process."
The outstanding issues are automatic qualifiers, bowls and timing, CFP executive director Bill Hancock said. Bowlsby called the issues "entrenched" and said the group of commissioners is no closer to resolving them than it was before meeting.
FBS commissioners continued to meet periodically throughout the summer and fall to discuss expansion. In order to expand before the CFP’s current contract expires at the end of the 2025 season, any major decisions about the format would need to be unanimous. The group of commissioners could not reach such a consensus regarding the size of the bracket and the inclusion (or not) of automatic qualifiers for Power 5 leagues.
"It's getting late" in the process to expand the Playoff before 2026, Hancock said Monday, but the group is "not closing any doors."
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Posted by udtiger 
on 1/10/22 at 2:30 pm to Bench McElroy
on 1/10/22 at 2:30 pm to Bench McElroy4 is plenty. Since the playoff started, very few semifinal games have been remotely close. it would be markedly worse with more teams.
Posted by Caraway Rye 
on 1/10/22 at 2:30 pm to Bench McElroy
on 1/10/22 at 2:30 pm to Bench McElroyBecause no one thinks the Big 12 has any business in a playoff when Houston and Cincinatti are the best offerings
Posted by UndercoverBryologist on 1/10/22 at 2:37 pm to Caraway Rye
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Because no one thinks the Big 12 has any business in a playoff when Houston and Cincinatti are the best offerings
Let’s be honest, both the Big 12 and Pac-12 have been non-factors since the start of the CFP era. (And the PAC-12 hasn’t even had to deal with teams defecting to other conferences like the Big 12 has. At least you can excuse the Big 12 in that regard.)
Posted by msutiger 
on 1/10/22 at 2:39 pm to Bench McElroy
on 1/10/22 at 2:39 pm to Bench McElroyIt’s because the alliance wants a 5+1 model and every other conference wants 6+6
This post was edited on 1/10 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Rhio 
on 1/10/22 at 2:40 pm to Bench McElroy
on 1/10/22 at 2:40 pm to Bench McElroyThe current playoff system is so boring and unneccessary. Do we need more teams added that would just get their arse handed to them by the SEC?
Improve the product on the field, then talk about expanding the playoffs.
Improve the product on the field, then talk about expanding the playoffs.
Posted by TheAstroTiger 
on 1/10/22 at 2:40 pm to udtiger
on 1/10/22 at 2:40 pm to udtigerquote:
4 is plenty. Since the playoff started, very few semifinal games have been remotely close. it would be markedly worse with more teams.
Everyone always puts out this tired excuse. Upsets happen all the time.
This gets said often; and I think is the most under talked about reason FOR expansion.
Right now you have a self fulfilling cycle of the same top teams winning over and over, which is primarily driven by access.
Recruiting is the lifeblood of CFB teams, and right now only a handful of teams can walk into a room and guarantee a kid they will play in the playoffs. Eventually, you end up where we are today, as top kids self selectively decide to play at schools that can get them into the playoff. Hence so many out of state athletes going across the country to Alabama/Ohio St/Georgia
If playoff field was expanded next year, you are right that we'd likley still have blow outs in Semis, and probably same final.
However, in the short term the regular season would have elevated importance late in season as teams fight for the playoff spots and the quarterfinal games would likely be much more competitive.
And in years 3-5+, as recruiting classes cycle through, I think you will see more parity and less blowouts as recruits will once again self-select to stay closer to home or be the "top guy" at another school if that school can make the reasonable pitch that they also have access to the playoff.
Right now you have a self fulfilling cycle of the same top teams winning over and over, which is primarily driven by access.
Recruiting is the lifeblood of CFB teams, and right now only a handful of teams can walk into a room and guarantee a kid they will play in the playoffs. Eventually, you end up where we are today, as top kids self selectively decide to play at schools that can get them into the playoff. Hence so many out of state athletes going across the country to Alabama/Ohio St/Georgia
If playoff field was expanded next year, you are right that we'd likley still have blow outs in Semis, and probably same final.
However, in the short term the regular season would have elevated importance late in season as teams fight for the playoff spots and the quarterfinal games would likely be much more competitive.
And in years 3-5+, as recruiting classes cycle through, I think you will see more parity and less blowouts as recruits will once again self-select to stay closer to home or be the "top guy" at another school if that school can make the reasonable pitch that they also have access to the playoff.
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The current playoff system is so boring and unneccessary. Do we need more teams added
Yes, so that more players and fans are invested so we don’t just continually end up with teams getting
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arse handed to them by the SEC
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Improve the product on the field
Won’t happen in the current age of transfer portal and NIL when “making the playoff” is the only mindset players have
CFB is already ruined and becoming regionalized and niche, the only way to try to salvage at this point is to expand and hope it disperses the talent and doesn’t keep players and fans from opting out/not watching, and coaches get a little more leeway since right now it is playoff or bust mentality
This post was edited on 1/10 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland 
on 1/10/22 at 2:49 pm to udtiger
on 1/10/22 at 2:49 pm to udtigerMark Packer on ESPNU has said Sankey absolutely does not want 8 as the SEC probably won't get a third team. But, 12 seems like a huge leap when we have crap games as it is. I like four.
Posted by LSUminati on 1/10/22 at 2:54 pm to Bench McElroy
I think the only way to reestablish the importance of the bowls we all enjoyed watching in the pre-playoff era is to expand the playoff.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology on 1/10/22 at 2:56 pm to Bunk Moreland
on 1/10/22 at 2:56 pm to Bunk MorelandSo basically the rest of the conferences want to expand the playoffs so that they can get more teams in, but not so much more that the SEC would get another team in. Do they not realize that going to 12 almost guarantees most conferences will get 2 teams now? (Sorry pac-12)
Posted by chalmetteowl on 1/10/22 at 2:58 pm to TheAstroTiger
on 1/10/22 at 2:58 pm to TheAstroTigerquote:
Everyone always puts out this tired excuse. Upsets happen all the time.
Except during the CFP
The problem with expanding to 12 is that, with the SEC’s success, if the field goes to 12, the SEC needs to be guaranteed 4 teams in.
This post was edited on 1/10 at 3:02 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99 
on 1/10/22 at 3:34 pm to Bench McElroy
on 1/10/22 at 3:34 pm to Bench McElroyI'd bet my house is 80% of the holdup is the other conferences wanting to restrict the number of schools from a single conference being allowed in it and the SEC saying frick that noise.
Posted by SG_Geaux on 1/10/22 at 3:42 pm to TheAstroTiger
on 1/10/22 at 3:42 pm to TheAstroTigerquote:
Everyone always puts out this tired excuse. Upsets happen all the time.
The first round average margin of victory is 3 TDs
Posted by sms151t 
on 1/10/22 at 3:51 pm to chalmetteowl
on 1/10/22 at 3:51 pm to chalmetteowlquote:
Except during the CFP
Except they do
Let’s see tOSU was a 4 Bama was a 4 Clemson was a 2 etc and so on
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