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re: Catholic High sanctioned by LHSAA for recruiting

Posted on 6/27/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by LookAtTheData
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 11:02 am to
Is it not true that in limiting a student athlete’s eligibility so that they can only play for certain schools, the LHSAA is also limiting a student’s ability to choose to enroll in the school that best meets their academic needs? Why should student athletes be limited by LHSAA, in the schools they can attend? Once again, implementing school choice would vastly diminish the controls of “superiors” over students, whatever their talents may be. True competition would only improve this situation, as student athletes could best market their skills to the schools they know will meet their academic and athletic needs.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 11:04 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 11:23 am to
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Is it not true that in limiting a student athlete’s eligibility so that they can only play for certain schools, the LHSAA is also limiting a student’s ability to choose to enroll in the school that best meets their academic needs? Why should student athletes be limited by LHSAA, in the schools they can attend? Once again, implementing school choice would vastly diminish the controls of “superiors” over students, whatever their talents may be. True competition would only improve this situation, as student athletes could best market their skills to the schools they know will meet their academic and athletic needs.
They can limit where they are immediately eligible. Principals control that rule as well as school choice. M&M transfers are immediately eligible as are most students switching schools due to a program ending or not offered at existing school. again ALL other criteria in the rules regarding recruiting and eligibility must still be met. Case in point for kid X at Archbishop Shaw that received improper financial aid when they had to give back 2 hoops and 1 fb trophy - the ruling came down in jan for that school year - he was ineligible for the remainder of that hoops season - but was eligible the following football and hoops season(as he was no longer receiving improper tuition aid. A few kids did leave shaw and go to their home attendance zone school - including an future LSU player.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 11:36 am to
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Is it not true that in limiting a student athlete’s eligibility so that they can only play for certain schools, the LHSAA is also limiting a student’s ability to choose to enroll in the school that best meets their academic needs? Why should student athletes be limited by LHSAA, in the schools they can attend?
athletics is not a right, it’s a privilege
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:08 pm to
The pervasive fear of competition, promoted by an alarming percentage of educators and government bureaucrats in the US, is one reason why we will be dominated by the Chinese in the not too distant future. While Americans wring their hands worrying they may offend one student by acknowledging another student is more talented in a given area, the Chinese are training their children in checking their emotions and persevering in excellence, in high demand and high paying fields. Surely many on this thread here also agree with limiting the percentage of students of Asian descent, at various institutes of higher learning, due to their “unfair” advantage of their work ethic and family support.
Posted by LookAtTheData
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:31 pm to
Imagine a middle school aged boy who plays tackle football through BREC. What are his moral and legal obligations to his local public middle or high school, which has been assigned to him based off his parents’ residential address? Should it matter if he is currently enrolled in a public school or private school, or if he is homeschooled? Should no high school coach be able to encourage the boy’s application to their school, based off the boy’s athletic ability? Why not? Who ultimately benefits from severely limiting others’ choices?
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:03 pm to
I am all for school choice

Form an athletic association that allows it
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:17 pm to
As the current recruitment policy stands, who ultimately benefits from that policy?
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:21 pm to
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As the current recruitment policy stands, who ultimately benefits from that policy?


The private schools that are cheating. Because a lot of the other private schools are abiding by the rules currently in place.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
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The pervasive fear of competition, promoted by an alarming percentage of educators and government bureaucrats in the US, is one reason why we will be dominated by the Chinese in the not too distant future.



Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:27 pm to
I still fail to understand why the LHSAA should police communications from coaches to potential high school student athletes and their families, related to their options for playing high school sports. Are coaches lying to students, making false promises to them, coercing students into attending their schools or threatening them with penalties for not attending or for transferring from schools?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:34 pm to
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by LookAtTheData
I still fail to understand why the LHSAA should police communications from coaches to potential high school student athletes and their families, related to their options for playing high school sports.


I don’t think it matters whether you personally understand it, or even whether or not you agree with it.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:36 pm to
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I don’t think it matters whether you personally understand it, or even whether or not you agree with it.



How dare someone question the validity of the “rules”!
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:41 pm to
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How dare someone question the validity of the “rules”!


So it comes back to the argument, “it’s ok to cheat if I disagree with the rules?” What about that Catholic Standard you were talking about earlier?
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:42 pm to
Do you believe the parents of middle-school age athletes are unable to effectively communicate with high school coaches, in relation to their children’s athletic and academic options?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Do you believe the parents of middle-school age athletes are unable to effectively communicate with high school coaches, in relation to their children’s athletic and academic options?



What did CHS get in trouble for where they had to give back four years of state champion and runner up titles? We don’t know bc they won’t disclose it.
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:45 pm to
Your response has nothing to do with my question. You believe the policy related to coaches being limited in communicating with middle school-aged athletes and their parents is necessary. Why is it necessary? Whose interests does it protect?
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:46 pm to
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Your response has nothing to do with my question. You believe the policy related to coaches being limited in communicating with middle schools athletes and their parents is necessary. Why is it necessary? Whose interests does it protect?



Yes it does, it’s arbitrary you even bringing that up bc we don’t know if that’s the rule CHS got in trouble for violating, you are assuming that.
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:53 pm to
Title of initial post here:

LINK
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:59 pm to
[In particular, the LHSAA focused on alleged improper recruiting of players by the school.

Documents provided by a source to WAFB-TV show instances of Catholic High staff being instructed to scout specific middle school teams and youth organizations for potential recruits.]

LINK
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:00 pm to
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DiPalma continued, “CHS respects the confidentiality policy between the LHSAA and member schools, and will not comment further. As this matter is now closed, we look forward to moving on to the 2021 Football Season and post season under new head coach, David Simoneaux.” DiPalma says the school has also agreed to pay two fines levied by the LHSAA. He declined to say the amount of those fines. The statement from Catholic High School came just hours after WAFB-TV first reported that the school was being sanctioned. At the time, the school said it would not comment on the matter. LHSAA President Eddie Bonine told WAFB-TV that Catholic High administrators have accepted the LHSAA sanctions and do not plan to appeal.
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