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re: Catholic High sanctioned by LHSAA for recruiting

Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:59 am to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:59 am to
Look, the Catholic fans here with their head in the sand think they should be able to go across the state and recruit any athlete they want.

The simple fact is that it isn’t legal, Catholic got busted for it, and the administration is quiet because they know they broke the rules.

If private schools want it to be a free for all where you canvas across the state choosing and recruiting the best middle school athletes, then another association will have to be formed.

It is against the rules in the LHSAA, split or not.

Simple as that
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Look, the Catholic fans here with their head in the sand think they should be able to go across the state and recruit any athlete they want.

The simple fact is that it isn’t legal, Catholic got busted for it, and the administration is quiet because they know they broke the rules.

If private schools want it to be a free for all where you canvas across the state choosing and recruiting the best middle school athletes, then another association will have to be formed.

It is against the rules in the LHSAA, split or not.

Simple as that


My head isn’t in the sand at all. I’m simply laughing at grown men being obsessed with Catholic High. It’s 13 year old boys choosing what’s best for them. However that is defined for them as individuals Im okay with. At any school. W’s and Ls at the prep level means absolutely nothing to me, what does mean to those in this thread?

Good for all the kids fortunate enough to be recruited. I encourage all schools to do the same.

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:18 pm to
Just say that “playing by the rules” doesn’t mean anything to you. Nice that a “grown man” is passing down that value to his children.
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
4846 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Every single student is recruited at Catholic.

Early 90s alum here. Not EVERY single student is, but many are. I'm sure back then CHS admin had their eyes on who they wanted based on things like engagement through open houses, camp attendance, athletic talent, etc. Obviously, they discuss prospective students with teachers/admin at the feeders and include that in decision making.

I went to HFS and was a pretty good football player. I had a long history of men on my mom's side that went to CHS and was going to CHS regardless of athletic talent, but distinctly remember Sid Edwards coming out to watch at least one running back at HFS and subsequently engaging me and 1 or 2 others.

We all went there (along with a number of non-athletes), but none of us had particularly noteworthy athletic achievements. Unless Top Bear accounts for something.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Just say that “playing by the rules” doesn’t mean anything to you. Nice that a “grown man” is passing down that value to his children.




There’s a big difference between rules of the game and rules of a governing body, itself full of corruption. College athletics are the prime example.

As a “grown arse man” I’ll teach my kids to know and reject corrupted authority figures, like our Founding Fathers did.

Guys like you would be submitting to the King of England.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6820 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:34 pm to
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There’s a big difference between rules of the game and rules of a governing body, itself full of corruption.


So its ok to break the rules if everyone else is doing it? Doesnt CHS make the students write the "honor code" on every test they hand in?

ETA: who is the purveyor of determining if a governing body is right and just? LOL @ you gay bear hypocrites
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:35 pm to
Listen to tough guy here.

Go watch your WWE. Most of us “grown men” got past that stage in elementary school.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53788 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:36 pm to
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a governing body, itself full of corruption. College athletics are the prime example.

As a “grown arse man” I’ll teach my kids to know and reject corrupted authority figures, like our Founding Fathers did.

Guys like you would be submitting to the King of England.

I know you know there are schools that don’t play in the LHSAA in Louisiana… Catholic chooses to be a part of it because it adds lots of value to their programs as opposed to the alternatives

They could choose not to join and follow its rules. Then they would not have local opponents, or play for a recognized championship, district or state.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by LSUHusker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2019
45 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Having the split though doesn’t mean you can legally go actively recruit kids


This.

Take Byrd as an example. Byrd is a public school that selectively admits students into a magnet academic program based on GPA and state test scores from anywhere in Caddo Parish. With Byrd, either you’re in the neighborhood or you’re smart.

It’s NUTS that this type of selective admittance is considered the same as Catholic or any of the other religious schools in Division 1.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:41 pm to
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As a “grown arse man” I’ll teach my kids to know and reject corrupted authority figures, like our Founding Fathers did.


Well get out of the LHSAA then.

Just a bunch of talk because your Bears got busted
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
429 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:42 pm to
Catholic didnt appeal because they dont want to the public spectacle of an appeal process and its students names being on that spreadsheet that WAFB has becoming public.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Catholic didnt appeal


Because they are guilty
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:46 pm to
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So its ok to break the rules if everyone else is doing it? Doesnt CHS make the students write the "honor code" on every test they hand in?



What a reach. If the corrupt governing body is making the arbitrary rules, I don’t give a flying frick about it. The kids did nothing wrong. It’s grown men, corrupted and biased, deciding why kids can’t do something that benefits them. They didn’t cheat the rules of the actual competition. Those kids won the game on the field.

They (LHSAA)will be replaced eventually. So who cares? Besides those who are obsessed with schools they didn’t go to.

quote:

Just a bunch of talk because your Bears got busted

If Catholic had a shitty program I wouldn’t lose an ounce of sleep.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:48 pm to
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It’s grown men, corrupted


The Catholic coaches
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:50 pm to
If you’re going to quote post the whole sentence for context. Or continue to look like you’re out of your depth.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:51 pm to
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If Catholic had a shitty program I wouldn’t lose an ounce of sleep.


Because your kid is young. When he gets old enough to go to Catholic and plays sports you will get into it again. It’s the circle of life
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
429 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:51 pm to
Not once have I argued that CHS did not cheat, but I think morally its wonderful to give kids a better education and athletic career even if its against the rules.
When you appeal, you can try to reduce the punishments even if you are guilty (ex. Mckinley), Clearly the Lhsaa has an excel chart showing a systematic process. CHS did not want that to become public and accepted a heftier punishment of losing 4 titles over the alternative of appealing and exposing which KIDS were recruited.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44887 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:52 pm to
I will quote how I want
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33824 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:53 pm to
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What a reach. If the corrupt governing body is making the arbitrary rules, I don’t give a flying frick about it
The rules apply to all member schools, the rules approved by school principals... It is a principal driven organization.


John Curtis, Su Lab and Bastrop all won their stripped titles on the field too.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Because your kid is young. When he gets old enough to go to Catholic and plays sports you will get into it again. It’s the circle of life


No I won’t. But as a middle aged guy, you should learn how to debate, otherwise you sound like your 18 fresh out of a lesser school than Catholic High.
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